Is it legal to shoot feral cats in PA?

To outsiders “PA” means the state of Pennsylvania, USA. I have answered the question “off paper” by which I mean through research rather than relying on first hand experiences. If anyone can add first hand experience (excluding trolls such as Woodsman001) I’d be happy to publish their comment.

The answer to the question in the title lies in the overlap of the following issues:

  1. Statutory law regarding animal cruelty in Pennsylvania (5511)
  2. Hunting regulations in the state
  3. Pest control in the state
  4. Control of ‘nuisance animals’

NOTICE: BEFORE I ADDRESS THESE 4 ISSUES, I CAN CONFIRM THAT I HAVE TELEPHONED THE PENNSYLVANIA GAME COMMISSION ON 717 787 4250 AND SPOKEN WITH THEM. THEY TELL ME UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO SHOOT FERAL CATS IN PA. THIS IS DEFINITIVE AND UNARGUABLE.

Regarding killing, Pennsylvania’s animal cruelty laws concern domestic or zoo animals as stated in the first line. However, the law clearly states that a person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he willfully and maliciously kills, maims, mutilates, tortures or disfigures any dog or cat whether belonging to himself or otherwise.

The word “otherwise” must mean a cat belonging to somebody else or belonging to nobody which in turn must apply to feral cats and stray cats (Section 5511 cruelty to animals).

Also, I have stated several times before, how is a shooter able to distinguish between a feral, stray or domestic cat? And let’s be clear, many feral cats are semi-domesticated. Would that or should that place them under the protection of the law? Therefore on a practical level it is highly unwise and should not be attempted. A person shooting a cat that he thought was feral could well end up in the criminal and civil courts expending a pile of money on his defense and still find himself in jail and massively out of pocket.

The forum huntingpa.com (a hunting website) backs up what I have stated. It states that “owned and loose, stray, and feral; killing them is against the law”.

Hunting

You might expect that the hunting regulations and pest control regulations of Pennsylvania refer to feral cats specifically allowing them to be culled or exterminated at will by the citizens of the state. However, I can find no reference to feral cats in the law regarding hunting in this state therefore it cannot be said that shooters have permission under hunting regulations. The reason is the impossibility of distinguishing feral from domestic.

In another article on whether hunters can shoot feral cats in Wisconsin I telephoned the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources and spoke to a lady there who told me, and agree with me, that it is illegal to shoot feral cats in that state. We agreed that it is impossible to distinguish between feral and domestic cats at a distance and therefore to allow the shooting of feral cats would also allow the shooting of domestic cats. Also, feral cats are not regarded as ‘wild mammals’ and therefore cannot fall within the context of unprotected species in Wisconsin. I’m sure that a very similar regulation applies to PA.

Is It Legal to Shoot Feral Cats in Wisconsin?

Pest

As for pests, a Pennsylvania state website (extension.psu.edu) refers to invasive species. They say they can be pests. They list them. The feral cat is not on the list. Therefore feral cats are neither invasive species nor pests as listed by the authorities in this state and therefore cannot be dealt with under this heading.

Nuisance

As for nuisance animals, feral cats could fall under this heading. The extension.psu.edu website states that “shooting live ammunition, whether to frighten or kill, has limited application. Generally, live ammunition may only be fired during hunting season or under permit”. Therefore we have to fall back on hunting regs referred to above. And once again there is always the overriding issue of distinguishing feral from domestic.

Self-defense

Exceptionally rarely a person may have to kill a cat, either domestic or feral, who is attacking them. They may shoot the cat and therefore under the circumstances they may raise the defence in court that they shot the cat in self defence. This would be unfortunate because whenever a cat attacks somebody it is, in my opinion, the person’s fault unless the cat has rabies.

Conclusion

It is illegal to shoot feral cats in Pennsylvania. My telephone call to the Pennsylvania Game Commission confirms that. I had quite a nice conversation with the gentleman at the Commission. We agreed that it is impractical in any event to allow people to shoot feral cats because you cannot, as explained above, tell the difference between someone’s pet and a genuine feral cat at a distance. Also, as explained above, the law encompasses unowned cats so this article puts to rest the argument. Cat shooters will try and shoot the argument down! They will be wrong. Don’t listen to them.

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Is it legal to shoot feral cats in PA? — 12 Comments

  1. Again, educate yourself. ALL house-cats (the Felis catus species, created by man by selective-breeding for human purposes), whether feral or indoors or in your silly self-stroking lap, are called “domesticated cats”. Stop using your layman’s terminology and definitions. Your doing so is driving you insane. Use the definition and term as used by all laws and all fields of science, and anyone with even a first year of high-school education. Felis catus, feral or not, is a domestic or domesticated species.

    Did you even go to any school at all?

    Laws do not GIVE you permission to kill animals, they can only deny you permission to kill which ones and/or how many.

    • Beth, you are Woody (Woodsman0001) in drag – and you are a drag and you’re completely wrong. It is you who needs educating. True feral cats are not domestic cats. Don’t you understand the word ‘domesticated’?

      • 2do•mes•ti•cate \-ket, -‘kat\ noun (1951)
        : a domesticated animal or plant

        Please tell us how you can “tame” and/or “train” a plant into a lap-plant, according to your definition of “domesticate”.

        domesticate verb
        to adapt (an animal or plant) to life in intimate association with and to the advantage of man (the man who domesticated the first dog)

        1do•mes•ti•cate \de-“mes-ti-‘kat\ do•mes•ti•cat•ed do•mes•ti•cat•ing (ca. 1639)
        verb transitive
        1 : to bring into domestic use
        2 : to adapt (an animal or plant) to life in intimate association with and to the advantage of humans
        3 : to make domestic

        do•mes•ti•ca•tion \-‘mes-ti-“ka-shen\ noun

        1do•mes•ti•cate \de-“mes-ti-‘kat\ do•mes•ti•cat•ed do•mes•ti•cat•ing (ca. 1639)
        verb transitive
        1 : to bring into domestic use
        2 : to adapt (an animal or plant) to life in intimate association with and to the advantage of humans
        3 : to make domestic : fit for domestic life
        do•mes•ti•ca•tion \-‘mes-ti-“ka-shen\ noun

        You would do yourself and all of your pathetically stupid readers a world of good if you even knew the definitions of the terms you try to (but wrongly) use.

        You fuckingly PATHETIC & STUPID MORON who never even went to ANY school! You’ve proved that without one doubt left.

        • Woody you are a complete arsehole and you must have been pissed when you wrote that. Are you an alcoholic? It sounds like it. The domestic cat is barely domesticated as it is. When a domestic cat becomes feral he/she is genuinely wild and unsocialised. Such a cat cannot be described as domesticated.

          What point are you trying to make? You are being utterly stupid and ignorant.

  2. I was admiring a blue jay on the back deck rail. Today under the deck furniture where feral cats have been living I found what was left of it after the “domesticated” cats that were born in a neighbors brush pile had dinner. I have found feathers in the yard several times this summer. My smaller old dog has almost lost his eye trying to “befriend” them…he was just curious.Females are very protective of their litters and can be dangerous. The asshole across the street puts large quantities of food out for them, usually there are 5-8 adults lounging there. Apparently “Beth” you have either never had such a problem or you may be one of those assholes feeding them. They are a nuisance, they are dangerous ( because of their feeding on wild animals they are a rabies risk) and they need to be dealt with. In my case there is no spay/alter release program near me. There are approximately 8-12 adults probably 15-20 younger kittens living in an area of about 2-3 acres. I do not dislike cats…but do the math. In no time at all the bird, rabbit and small animal population will be gone from my area. I am sure there are some sadistic fucks hunting them for fun, that I assure you is not the intent of most who have a feral cat issue. Trap and release elsewhere does not solve the problem. It is the same as a rat infestation. Unfortunately thats how i will treat it. I like cats in general, it does hurt me to have to kill them. Hunt them? Never. Still they must be controlled just as other animal population that is a nuisance to the welfare of a particular area.

    • I have published your comment in the interests of free speech and a balanced argument. I disagree with you of course. TNR does work and it does reduce the numbers. And it is humane. What you want to do is inhumane. Don’t blame the cats, blame the people who irresponsibly let their cats create them. And you are demonstrating speciesism, the preference of one species over another. There is more that it wrong with your argument and the counter arguments are on the site in numerous places.

      If you are Woody aka Woodsman001 don’t write a second comment as it will be deleted.

  3. I shoot them with a population of 500 on my property and growing its a problem. They fight. They are nasty. The bring mites and fleas near our animals. They are nuisance animals. Unless domesticated. Look at wild pigs. A domesticated pig is ok it breaks out it takes weeks before it adapts to the wild. Becoming a nuisance animal. Cats are the same.

    • Well, I say that you are committing a crime because you don’t know for sure that the cats are all feral. Some may be stray domestic cats. And feral cats are not classified as nuisance animals.

  4. The people on here who think it is ok to kill cats are evil . These cats didn’t ask to be dumped outside —- they didn’t ask to be born. They are innocent and if more people would pitch in to help TNR – if others would spay/neuter and vaccinate their pets ( and keep them indoors) perhaps this overpopulation would start to diminish.. cats are wonderful creatures – very smart and loving when given the chance- I have housed and fed ferals over the years and have gained respect for these Kitties that survive in bitter temperatures in the winter or soaring heat in the summer- they learn to respect and appreciate their caretakers – haveva heart and help them out .. PA laws are pretty strick when it comes to harming and killing animals- a man was just put in jail for drowning raccoons he trapped!bif you ahoy and kill cats, I hope you are reported and prosecuted…

  5. I live on s farm and city folks drop litters of KITTENS off every year..we take them and give them ALL GOOD HOMES..I never would think of SHOOTING one !!!..,I’m a hunter who hunts EVERY YEAR ,but would NEVER SHOOT A TAME OR FERAL CAT !!! some people make me sick !!!…,why not try n help them out like we do??..maybe you will feel good about it ?.after all it’s not the cats fault ???.it’s the owners who drop them off or just kick them out !!!

    • We said and well done Randy. I like your attitude and thanks for commenting. It is sad to hear though that city folk abandon cats on or near your farm. That is terribly cruel and immoral. In fact in may well be a crime in your state.

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