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  1. As a rescue that does TNR and has a Sanctury I totally agree with Carolyn about the fear that has gripped those of us doing this work. We have had three sanctuaries-places of last resort for ferals in peril shut down in the Sate of FL within the last three years due to the Nationals arbitrary standards- and yes there were vets involved to support the standards because they get a huge chunk of funding.
    Of course the high kill shelters gets awards from these same national orgs.
    I am very concerned to read the account that Elise Perkins assembled 18,000 names to be banned as potential adopters – did these names come from the petitions many signed in support of Caboodle? Or from comments made? I am also concerned that the ASPCA is now monitoring FB pages of those who disagree with their tactics. This smacks of facisim at best and illegal- who gave them legal
    Rights to do this?? And to what end??
    They are setting themselves up for a class action lawsuit.

    • The names that the ASPCA has are people who have made public comments about pretending to adopt a Caboodle cat, and then giving the cat back to Craig Grant. It is not all of the fans of the Facebook page, nor the people who may have signed petitions supporting Caboodle Ranch. It is only people who have made their illegal intentions known through social media.

  2. I’m sorry, bwakul, but that is simply not true. Here is an example from the Caboodle Ranch fan page: Deborah Irish Cornaire I’d like to shove a hot poker right up her smelly arse,and if ye see this Elise then good,ye now know hopw much I hate ye and the rest with a black passion!
    On both the CR Inc page and the CR fan page, this kind of speech against Elise, Dana, and John has been fairly common. Nothing comparable on the Caboodle Ranch Animal Cruelty Investigation page.

    • There are many, many examples of threats like that (and worse) on the CR pages. The name calling is very bad also. We simply ignore them and concentrate on the task at hand.

  3. I’ve been watching this case unfold from the beginning and watched from the background and read comments from both sides.

    I believe the judges conclusions were (unfortunately) the right ones but am concerned re the fate of the feral cats. I have also managed an animal shelter and understand the difficulties faced by Craig Grant, although he was most definitely without the resources to look after that many animals and was irresponsible to continue as he did.

    As a reasonably objective observer, I agree that the vitriol from the anti-CR supporters has far exceeded that from the pro-CL supporters. Absolutely disgusting at times. Elise, it’s a vindictive bitter person who takes pleasure in the misfortune of others.

    • There are many, many examples of threats like that (and worse) on the CR pages. The name calling is very bad also. We simply ignore them and concentrate on the task at hand. The feral cats will be placed with feral colonies (acclimated and introduced properly).

  4. Michael has the screenshot of the comments Elise made on their Caboodle Ranch Cruelty Case Info page. It would not copy and paste and has been removed from their page. I apologize for the inconvenience.

  5. Perhaps the haters should take note of what they’ve accomplished this past week and see how it places them in a hate crime setting. According to a screenshot from Caboodle Ranch Cruelty Case Info, Elise Perkins made the following statement(s):

    This shows several things, including the fact that opponents against Caboodle Ranch (lovingly referred to as “the haters,” has now extended their hate not only to the ranch employees but to the 18000+ fans by “putting their names” on a list banning them from adopting a Caboodle Ranch cat. How long did it take to get that name list together? Don’t you think the ASPCA will have enough to do without having to search through such a list for those “banned” from adopting. Do you have the legal right to ban adoptions? Is the ASPCA REALLY aware that notices have been published on the internet that none of the 18,000 Caboodle Ranch supporters should even bother to show up because their names are on a “list?” I read their online newsletter detailing the adoption event and NOWHERE does it mention this! Is sabotaging an ASPCA adoption event a crime?

    Who died and made you God?

    The ASPCA can do their job without your “help.” I also seriously doubt they are monitoring the Facebook pages of 18000 Caboodle Ranch supporters. Unlike YOU, the ASPCA has much more important work to accomplish than spread lies and spew hate. If anyone’s Facebook page should be monitored, it should be those whose sole desire is to destroy Caboodle Ranch. That’s for the court to decide. Not a bunch of Judge Judy wannabees!

    The opposition has also stated that thanks to their efforts, Craig Grants personal cats will not even be put up for adoption at this event. This shows their hate for Mr. Grant is more important than these cats finding a permanent home. They’d rather see these poor cats kept in cages than to go through the adoption process along with the other cats.

    Combine these activities (I call them activities as it seems to be all these haters have to do with their time), and you have a hate crime scenario against a group of people and what they believe in. The hate accelerates on a daily basis as the court date draws near.

    These are obviously people who hate people much more than they profess to love cats. Just because so many support the ranch doesn’t mean these supporters should be banned for an affiliation to a group they’ve likely never met face to face. Guilt by association, I believe, is the term.

    Again, lots of psycho-babble trying to influence people using hate and scare tactics. You should be ashamed to call yourselves cat lovers! Everything I’ve read about Caboodle Ranch supporters has talked of how the ranch tried to save cats. Those against the ranch are doing their best to prevent many of these cats from finding homes by warning adopters away from the events. The adoptions should be based on overall compatibility and legally binding between the applicant and the ASPCA. Not because potential adopters are on or not on a list.

    I’ve followed both sides of this issue these past few months. In my 38 years as a practicing family therapist I’ve dealt with many emotional issues. I’ve treated men and women who later were imprisoned for violence against family members. Never during those years have I experienced the level of hate I have on the topic of Caboodle Ranch.

    I strongly urge many of you to seek medical and psychological treatment. There are drugs available with wonderful success rates for treating your condition. I suggest anger management classes as well as treatment for OCD as many of you appear asymptomatic. Adult ADHD is also a possible diagnosis since those involved keep repeating themselves over and over again and ADHD can cause behavioral, social , emotional, vocational and academic problems in adults. Symptoms of delusions of grandeur and systematized delusions are definitely being displayed by those against Mr. Grant. Perhaps if time were spent studying the various new drugs available instead of persecuting a man who will be found innocent or guilty by a jury of his peers, you may find comfort and healing through drug therapy along with psychotherapy.

    Should you be unable to afford treatment, visit your local Mental Health office. Most large counties have them now and charges are based on your income.

    • Hi Victoria. Great comment. Thanks for taking the time to make some sense out of this. The Caboodle Ranch story reflects badly on a section of society. The cats as usual come out well. They are the silent victims. I also believe, as you have said, that a number of individuals are expressing their anger, acquired as a result of something else, through Caboodle Ranch or they might have mental health issues. We all carry some sort of mental baggage but one or two of the people who have commented on this page (Natasha comes to mind) have problems.

      It seems that the Caboodle Ranch story has exposed some of the darker side of what goes on in the heads of ‘ordinary people’, in American society.

    • Victoria, your ignorance and willingness to jump to conclusions is appalling.

      First off, as we’ve said several times now, “all 18,000+ supporters” are not on the list. The people on the list are convicted animal abusers, people currently facing trial for animal abuser and hoarding, and individuals who have made terroristic statements about their intent to steal the cats and return them to Craig. In fact, there are MULTIPLE statements to this effect on the official Caboodle Ranch page as of this moment.

      The adoptions ARE based on the screening process of the adopting agencies. Not on the list. But the list provides a convenient “short list” of high-risk adopters that require additional scrutiny. In most cases, a quick lookup on pet-abuse.com is all that’s needed to eliminate them from consideration. In the case of individuals advocating fraud and theft, screenshots of those comments have been taken and are available to the adopting organizations on request.

      Finally, it is the Caboodle Ranch supporters who have sought to delay and sabotage the adoptions, not us. Here’s a perfect example:

      “God knows we are doing everything we can, with limited funds, to stop the adoptions.” — Dale Swisher on Caboodle Ranch, Inc. Facebook page, August 6th, 2012.

      Victoria, you are blind to your own prejudices. The anti-CR people are furious because cats have been tortured and killed through Caboodle Ranch’s fraud and neglect. The pro-CR people are furious because those lies were exposed.

      I don’t know of any mental health professional who would dare to make a diagnosis and recommendation over the internet. This further increases my skepticism that you were ever a licensed therapist, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were simply dangerously incompetent.

    • Victoria – It becomes clearer with each of your posts that you are not now, nor have you ever been a therapist. An educated professional would be able to comprehend the definition of hate crime. No mental health or medical professional would ever advise treatment of any sort based on internet posts, without an examination or consultation with the patient, much less advise medication.

      No one died and made us God. No one has a “right” to adopt cats. It is, however, the “right” of the adoption agency to select who it adopts animals to – they have custody of the animals. Using whatever criteria they choose, the ASPCA will decide who will adopt the cats.

      What exactly is your connection to Grant? You speak of him frequently? Do you know him? Have you been to CR, seen the cats? Do you have any personal experience with this case at all?

      The courts have already decided the fate of the cats. They will also decide – with no help from us, or e-mails from the fans – the fate of CR and Grant. I have complete faith in them.

  6. Thank the Lord that this author had the courage and integrity to write this most excellent article on hate crimes. Craig Grant, Rob Grant, Pavla Grant, and Nanette Entriken are most assuredly guilty of hate crimes against cats, and I applaud this author for taking on this corrupt, hateful, animal-absing bunch. Fingers crossed, they’ll all soon be in jail!

    • Did you ever read what it is your responding to ???? No I think Not….
      Just another HATE rant anywhere they can get a jab in they will. I don’t think you people get it although cats should not be abused for any reason.
      People have this thing call RIGHTS you know Court of law. Just because a bunch of Blabbermouths see things a certain way that just too bad. Get over it IT”S INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY Not the Blabbermouth said HANG HIM. Try and remember that stuff they taught in school would you. And stop with the I wish this and that will ya. People do have RIGHTS. So Sorry..

    • Oh and I forgot to tell you the only one CHARGED with Anything Is Graig Grant.
      So your hatred for the other people is a wasted thought again. So Sorry..
      Like I said read before you speak. It’s much better for the rest of us that way..

  7. When It is no longer a soap box for the Haters they loose all Interest. Why does that not surprise me. If its not another place to come and rave like loons, there not interested. Just goes to show the true purpose. HATE !!!

  8. Those of you so filled with hate as to not even comment on the actual topic give new meaning to the term “psycho-babble.” I won’t comment further, having proven my point. Some of you should learn to keep silent and be thought a fool or speak and remove all double. Michael, I applaud your ability to tread softly where fools surely gather.

    • Thanks Victoria. The comments do shed light on the nature of the problem that is ultimately about animal welfare. Humans are too busy squabbling to be focused on caring for animals properly.

    • In reponse to Victoria’s Quote:

      “Some of you should learn to keep silent and be thought a fool or speak and remove all DOUBLE”

      Victoria, maybe you should follow your own advice.

  9. To quote Steve; Also,if you want to talk legal, I believe there are law suits coming about giving up the cats under false pretenses, neglect, etc’
    That is good! It’s time people took lifetime responsibilty for their cats. I expect there are records of all the excuses people used to dump their cats so the genuine ones can be exonerated from a share of the guilt and they are the ones who have my sympathy.
    To quote Michael’Personally I could not hand over my cat. My cat is with me for the life of my cat unless I die first. Period no argument’
    EXACTLY my sentiments and I would starve rather than sign my cats over to ANYONE at all let alone a Shelter, even our excellent local one, because I know they’d be miserable and bewildered after having the loving home all cats deserve.

  10. This will be my final remark. To Michael. It is apparent since the last time you and I went around on another blog, that you have completely lost your mind. I can barely stand to read some of the comments you posted here so I don’t think I can look any longer. You have the sympathy of the devil. You never did choose the right side in this case, the cats side, from the beginning. It was always about how to say or not say something and banning instead of the truth. I am finished with your site and I hope once I can move out of hell up a level to just sheer agony over the death of my 3 loves and my mother who wished we could have gotten them back and watched me suffer for over two years, I will never have to be on this shit internet again, especially face book. I have too many mixed feelings about sharing the pain of something this horrible with so many psychotic strangers that I think that alone will take years to erase from my brain. It has been a perfectly horrifying ride and sideshow and I may be lucky to have survived it tho I would actually give up anything, even my life to save those 3 sweet innocent cats who only loved me. Things happened that forced me to make that heinous decision turning them over to a cat killer and I will suffer that all of my life.

    • Pamela, the only side I have chosen is the side of truth, whatever it is. I don’t make comments about CR because I don’t know enough about it. I am neither for or against CR or for or against people who gave their cats to CR. I am always for the cat. I understand your feelings. It must be awful. But as soon as you hand over loved ones to a stranger (or someone you don’t really know) no matter what they say or apparently do, you are taking a risk in this world, which is full of misrepresentation and lies. The answer is not to do it, whatever it takes. I don’t know your circumstances (or have forgotten them -sorry) but a lot of the time there are alternatives to giving up a cat to a “shelter”. It is about making tough decisions. I wish you well and good luck for the future.

  11. YOU ARE AN IMBECILE. You are not worth commenting to except that it is important that when someone is too stupid to get something perhaps pointing it out for them might help. The Mexican Jew comment was sarcastic. She CLEARLY made up that name. My remark was two fold. One, I pointed out her pathetic false name, a person who has appeared out of thin air to comment here? Right! And two, she makes as many false and distasteful remarks as you, no, actually yours are more pathetic. I loved that the “hate crime bs” story, so poorly and incorrectly written gets commented on, a crude comment at that, with a Mexican Jewish name. So demented.

  12. and BTW, I thought I was going to be able to go there and SEE MY CATS but upon them mysteriously disappearing 10 days later, and never seeing them again going out there looking for them for the next 7 months showed me a little too late what was happening there. How dare you judge anyone and present YOU LIST of what they should have done. You could not even have an idea of what this was like. As far as I am concerned you support Craig Grant.

  13. Michael and Ruth you are killing me slowly reading this nonsense! What the heck does the title of this pathetic article have to do with anything either of you said? Are you as confused as the author of this garble you posted? What is your point? I don’t need you to tell me I don’t have to read this and tune out. You put it up on the damn web and I came hear to see it! I will leave if I DESIRE! You have compeletely ignored the HATE CRIME of the cats! This hellhole MURDERED MY 3 BABIES and don’t you dare think you can even begin to have an opinion about MY LIFE and why they had to go there when they did. That is not what this filthy owner promised me about them. And frankly it is none of your business why they even went there. And believe me I have been up against way more psychotic people with THEIR OPINIONS of my having brought them to the cat killer than what you are graveling about. It is funny to read posts here where you feel people “need to stick to the topic” and then you both create a competely different issue in your last few post. I guess that okay cause YOU ARE THE OWNER. Well OWN THIS, anything and I mean ANYTHING that you allow on your site that shows the slightest, and I mean SLIGHTEST support for this killer means you are a part of it. And that is MY OPINION!

    • I don’t think we are off-topic. What I want to discuss is very much on-topic as it is about the reason for the existence of CR (poor cat ownership). It doesn’t matter if you find the article pathetic or not. The discussion in the comments is now the subject matter and the topic.

      I am sorry that you lost your cats. You say that CR “murdered my 3 babies”. I am sorry to say this but, they were not your babies after you handed them over unless there is a contract that says you retained ownership after handover. I realise that sounds harsh but as I see it that is the legal position. I also understand your anguish completely but I feel you too should take some responsibility for what happened. Personally I could not hand over my cat. My cat is with me for the life of my cat unless I die first. Period no argument.

      I realise this sounds tough but I am forced to face the reality of what has gone on. As far as I am aware (and please correct me if I am wrong) Craig has not been tried and convicted yet for animal cruelty.

    • Wow you’re right, your post was definitely on the topic, not! I’m not defending the ranch or the people who dumped their cats there. When you post this, “MURDERED MY 3 BABIES,” BABIES? really? Wow I could never get rid of, Topaz, Rudy, CryBaby, Sadie, Rascal, Harley, or Foxy.

  14. Steve do you mean people didn’t actually go onto the ranch and see for themselves the conditions, didn’t research the surrounding area, didn’t ask how the cats were cared for, where they slept and exercised, what they were fed on, cleaned with, etc?
    This is exactly my point, people who dumped their cat there on a flimsy excuse and walked away were not fit cat caretakers and need serious education, they certainly should never be allowed to have another cat in their power without that education.
    In your case if the cat wasn’t actually yours but a feral in any danger then that’s different, you did the best you could if the cat wasn’t your responsibility.
    It’s the people crying now ‘what happened to my cat?’ who are guilty, the moment they relinquished their cat to his fate, the cat ceased to be theirs, they dumped the cat for someone else to take care of!
    Michael is right, poor cat ownership caused the feral problem and causes the overcrowding problem in Shelters too and it all comes down to the same result, cats suffer and die because of ignorant or uncaring people who treat them as objects to dispose of when they don’t want them around any more.

    • You make a good point there Ruth, that has not been made before. When a person hands over their cat to a shelter, such as CR, legal ownership of the cat is transferred to the owner of the shelter. So people really have no right to complain on that basis as the cat is no theirs or their responsibility….Michael

      • Michael, I think you are way off base. Go say that to the mother who adopts out their child or they are put in foster care and the child is killed a month later by their new parents. Go say you have no right to complain or be mad because you gave up your legal rights to your kid.
        Also, if you want to talk legal, I believe there are law suits coming about giving up the cats under false pretenses, neglect, etc.. In my opinion, this is not legal, but I was conned.
        Last, even if I go with your premise, why cant I complain that he is killing cats. If you have a right to be mad why cant I.

    • Ruth – I think you and Michael are not qualified to discuss this topic honestly. You did not see how CR deceived these people – and they did deceive them. Problems were hidden from them. An average cat owner might not notice signs of problems that someone who works with cats would see. I think you might try to put yourselves in their shoes and imagine that you were deceived as they were.

  15. PoC regulars know what a very fair man our Admin Michael is and I support him totally in allowing peoples various views to be posted, yet removing the abusive comments.
    The abuse of cats should not be hidden away and in a case like Caboodle it’s only fair that both sides should have their say so that others can learn from what is said.
    It’s not up to us in another country to judge what we can’t see with our own eyes, but it is up to us to care about each and every cat in this world and to try to make a better future for all cats through lessons learned.
    They are not possessions to be dumped in a Shelter without good reason and I don’t believe that hundreds of people all had a good reason, but that is the top and bottom of all this, most of those cats should not have been there in the first place and those who dumped them without good reason should share the guilt of whatever has happened to those cats.

    • Thanks Ruth for your support and well said. A very sensible comment with a good message. I think we should focus the discussion on what you say: how to reduce relinquishment of the domestic cat and encourage or insist on better cat caretaking. I also feel, like you, that people find a good reason to dump a cat. It is a form of justification and self denial. There are very few occasions where it is justified. One is when a person becomes too old and ill but that can be prepared for well in advance can’t it? If a person is becoming old and ill they should make preparation for their cat to be rehomed in a controlled way. Things can be done to avoid what must be seen as a desperate last measure: abandoning a cat. The trouble is it is not seen as a last measure…Michael.

      • Michael, Ruth with all due respect, the case is not about why people decided to give up their cats but its about the safety and care that the cats didnt receive at the CR. You say people should share the guilt, well, I am one of the people who dropped off a feral cat and I blame Mr. Grant and only Mr. Grant and it has nothing do with the cat being feral, I would blame him if the cat wasnt feral. Here is my reason why, on his website, the place looks like a cat Disney World where he states the place is fenced, cats receive food, water and cats receive veterinary care. Nowhere on the website did he describe the risks involved or when I asked on the phone, he failed to state there was a major coyote problem, according to CRI FB page, neighbors were shooting the cats, the fence was not protective, cats were receiving limited to no veterinary care, sick cats were not properly segregated from the rest of the population, he was underfunded, etc.. If he would have stated all the risks and presented his ranch in the true way, I wouldnt have brought my cat there and if I did, then I would have to lean more toward your opinion.

        • I forgot to add, it never stated on his website nor did he state on the phone that he was using Clorox wipes to clean off the cats. Right then and there that would have been a deal breaker for me bring my cat there.

        • Steve, I think we are on the same page, actually. What Ruth and I are saying is that it is better to go back to the underlying problem. Yes, there are things to discuss about CR but the better discussion is abandonment and cat ownership.

          You dropped off a feral cat. You did that out of genuine concern for which you should be praised. And yes CR failed you.

          However, I’d like to discuss how to stop the “production” of feral cats. With better cat ownership there would be less feral cats and maybe you wouldn’t have needed to try and save one.

          Why is there such a need for places like CR? Answer: poor cat ownership. It is time to change the attitude of millions of people about cat “ownership” – to raise the standard massively and to achieve harmony. If America is killing 4,000,000 cats per year because they are unwanted, let’s discuss the reason for that.

          • Micheal I have had cats dumped by my house, two were pregnant. There is no way I would have dumped them on anyone. I had all of them fixed, got homes for some of the kittens, kept the ones I couldn’t get homes for. My husband was not too happy about paying to have the cats fixed but I explained to him it was that or a major cat problem, he totally understood.

  16. What a piece of dung! I can not begin to understand the administrator even allowing this extremely unrelated, purely irrelevant, confused, and misinformed blah blah blah text to be typed on his site. The fact that he even gave this psycobabbler a forum is extremely disappointing!

    How he could allow this twisted and misconstrued venting to be placed to read here on POC let’s me know how far removed people are from even getting a teeny clue of reality about animal abuse! I do honestly, in knowing the truth about this particular hoarder for money, find this kind of misinformation infuriating!


    Thanks for your comment. It gives me the opportunity to explain. Yes, Pamela, dung is part of life and certainly part of our relationship with the domestic cat. Although there are a lot of good comments on this page that cannot be called ‘dung’ and which are quite enlightening and useful.

    Response from the administrator:

    The reason why I have let people comment who should perhaps not comment is because:

    • an argument or discussion such as this brings traffic to the site so it brings exposure to the site. It needs exposure because the internet is very, very tough these days and PoC is going through a tough time…and;
    • it shows us how poorly some people can behave when the victim is the cat. While people squabble, the cat is abused and dies. If people were better behaved and more socially harmonious the focus would be on how to help cats generally and those that were at CR or to report on them, to find out more about them, to help in rehoming etc. not fight over what is now history.

    I want people to see that and learn from it. That is the reasoning. It is not sloppiness or a failure to act.

    Secondly Pamela, like television, you don’t have to read it. You can turn it off. You can glimpse at it and move on. There are plenty of other pages which will suit you I expect.

    I hope this explains why.

    Michael
    Owner and Administrator

  17. Admin.? How is it ranting? Telling the shocking truth. Pointing out again and again, where the true hate lies. It lies with the people who did not care about these cats. This is a true animal hate crime. What is so bad about discussing that FACT!?

    • Natasha, you can tell the truth in a much more powerful way without using capital letters (written form of shouting) and foul language. And without saying the same thing over and over again. Say it once, cleanly and clearly and move on. You cannot simply repeat the same thing endlessly just to relieve yourself of anger and frustration. This is not the place to do that. I am sorry you lost your cats. I understand your hurt. But no more comments unless you bring something new to the discussion (politely).

    • Wishing someone a disease and threatening physical violence are two very different things. You are obviously unbalanced and in need of immediate mental help. I think CR is a target for you, not the underlying problem. Please stop villifying Craig Grant and CR because YOU abandoned your cat. You are not helping your cause in any way.

  18. Here’s a recent hateful post by a CR fan. Is this a hate crime?

    YE KNOW THE HATERS ARE SQUEALING WITH GLEE,I HOPE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM GARNERS A HORRIBLE DISEASE ESPECIALLY JOHN,ELISE AND MOST OF ALL PAMELA,TO THEM THIS WAS NOT ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THE CABOODLES BUT REVENGE ON CRAIG.

  19. CABOODLE RANCH, INC.: They don’t want to discuss the article’s TOPIC: HATE CRIMES. They want to deflect people over to their website. What are they trying to justify the hatred and threats? We’ve tolerated it since the raid, no more! And really, the admin of that website should limit the amount of words on any one post. Jeez, their rhetoric can put you to sleep.

    • Natasha – I have edited some of your comments because they are plain rants. You are just expressing your anger. That is fine but buy a punch bag and hit that every day. It will work better. I have to stop you making comments now. Please stop. No more comments from you unless it is new information that adds to the discussion. If you do comment and rant it will be deleted. Sorry. Michael (Admin).

    • We can discuss the topic of hate crimes, but hate crimes do not relate to this topic. No hate crimes have been committed. The author lacks a true understanding of the term.

  20. Pam, many of us feel compassion for you. But you HAVE to stop ranting like this. It doesn’t do anything but detract from you and distract from the work of destroying the cancer that is Caboodle Ranch.

  21. And to think of how many feral he took there who probably had a better chance of surviving where they were then with him. The domestics just cause a knife stabbing pain in my heart and gut. Those poor innocent once cared for sweet angels brought to this place to be tortured to death. God who can help with the missing????? Where are they?????

  22. LET ME REPHRASE THAT MESSY TEXT. THESE people THINK THIS IS LIKE “THE CATS!” I SAY DO THE MATH AND DISCOVER THIS HAS GOT TO BE ABOUT THE FIFTH OR MORE GROUP OF 700 OVER THE YEARS AT 100 CATS A MONTH OR 1200 A YEAR AND IF THATS TOO MANY FOR YOU TO BELIEVE DO 50 CATS A MONTH THEN. WHERE ARE ALL THE CATS? WHERE ARE MINE? WHERE ARE ALL THE MISSING CATS, THOUSANDS? NO? OKAY SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW MANY THEN.

    • I’m not surprised no one answers your question. I have been asking why they dumped their cats there in the first place and all I get is, well, no response.

  23. You have to love the very missing faculties of the lying fan cult. They are so stupid they don’t even realize the cats rescued were probably all taken to that hell hole in the last year and a half tops. They actually think these cats have been there since freakazoid starting taking cats out to the woods and droppin them for the predators. BY SIMPLE MATH THEY ARE PROBABLY A COLLECTION OF 700 AND DON’T ALL THE ONES THAT DID NOT GET RESCUED BUT RAN IN FEAR, TO A THOUSAND THAT MAKE IT AT LEAST THE 5TH TIME AROUND. JUST DO SOME DAMN SIMPLE CALCULATING AT AT LEAST 100 CATS A MONTH X HOW MANY FRIGGING YEARS? IT IS SO DAMN SCARY BECAUSE SO MANY OF US BRINGING THEM THERE DID NOT KNOW THEY WOULD BE SHOT BY HIS NEIGHBOR, POISONED BY HIS NEIGHBOR, ATTACKED BY PREDATORS, LEFT TO ROAM DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS THEY MADE IT, MANY KILLED ON THE HIGH SPEED ROAD DOWN TO THAT SHITHOLE! FIRST HAND EVIDENCE FROM THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ADMITTED KILLING THEM AND/OR SAW THINGS WITH THEIR OWN EYES. HIS NEIGHBORS ABHOR HIM AND WHAT HE DID TO THE AREA LETTING THOSE POOR CATS JUST RUN FREE THROUGH THEIR TOWN. IT IS A HOLOCAUST AND THE HATE CRIME OF THE DECADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • “IT IS SO DAMN SCARY BECAUSE SO MANY OF US BRINGING THEM THERE DID NOT KNOW THEY WOULD BE SHOT BY HIS NEIGHBOR, POISONED BY HIS NEIGHBOR, ATTACKED BY PREDATORS, LEFT TO ROAM DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS THEY MADE IT, MANY KILLED ON THE HIGH SPEED ROAD DOWN TO THAT SHITHOLE!”

      Natasha did you walk through and check out the ranch before you dumped your cat? Did you notice how close the neighbors were? Did you notice if there was a fence that would keep the predators out? A lot of people hate cats so it really isn’t surprising to me that some of the neighbors killed the cats. Poor kitties! I am not defending the ranch either but no one who dumped their beloved cats will tell me why they dumped them. Someone said it was irrelevant. The cats are irrelevant to this person, I guess that explains a lot…

  24. CHECK OUT THIS NASTY THREAT FROM THE CAT ABUSING SCUM: CABOODLE RANCH, INC: Apparently, the ASpcA has send out email or posted somewhere that the Caboodle Cats will be ready for adoption on August 11, and they have the audacity to post pictures of all of Craig’s personal cats. They are vindictive and I pray to God that they lose millions in donations over this. This is not over yet ASpcA.

    • Did you really just insult her heritage? We’re supposed to take the word of a raving, yelling, name calling, person? Unbelievable how rude you are.

  25. AND THIS DEMENTED POST:
    Deborah Irish Cornaire

    To my fellow Caboodle Ranch peeps,I have pondered this and have decided to go with it,I am no longer a fan of John Fulton who does his show Must Love Cats due to I had pleaded with him to please help the Caboodle Ranch by having the segment that he filmed on location at the CR because if he had then Craigs case would have most likely been some wot easier to handle,when I asked John about the video he told me point blank (NO CAN DO) so I asked him why and he chose to ignore my question so I as of today am no longer a fan of MUST LOVE CATS!!!!!

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