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A1 Savannahs Breeding Queen with her Kittens — 49 Comments

  1. The place looks dirty to me, it seems as though there was laxity all round. Surely the money that must have been made from exploiting the cats could have paid for something better than that. And to think the situation got even worse for the animals when their souls were sold to a hunter makes me sick.

    • Absolutely agree, Barbara.
      I can’t bear to think about how a hunter, who kills animals either for sport or consumption, would have any feelings for cats. I believe that any interest he may have in their wellbeing is to keep them alive and healthy enough to bring in revenue for himself.
      I think breeders should be under much more scrutiny than they are.
      If I even had a random bred cat in those circumstances, someone would report me for sure.

  2. Don’t like this way of keeping cats specially if someone have resources, even I being jobless not keep my beauties in this way. Bhwaaaa. . . Barking of dogs seems to me as teasers for the cats and specially babies, it seems self-made created tension/ fear for the innocent fellows for 24/7/365. 🙁

    One of them seems to be my LAILA who is better kept indoor with me in my studies/ library room.

    I thought it is LAILA there and I just took my LAILA in my arms and hugged her with a kiss. These kinds of emotions make me sick 🙁

    Thanks for exposing but not happy 🙁

    • Ahsan you speak such sense and you have great compassion, I think like me you care about each and every cat in this world and put yourself in their place.
      The barking dogs were upsetting the kittens, I wonder where they are now, did they get good homes? Did they survive? Did their new owners declaw them?
      Each and every one of them matters to me but we will never know their fate, just hope and pray they are having good lives and not as money making breeding machines.

    • Thank you my friends <3

      I am a bit sick now a days due to cruelty NEWS. And today one of my SPY BOY (I have appointed some street boys/girls to look after the matters of cruelty towards cats and kittens in our surroundings) told me,"Uncle Ahsan! in our street, there is a man who feed all cats milk and chicken heads. (Chicken heads??? he is self a BULL HEAD 🙁 ) and after two or three weeks , the man put POISON in the milk and food, so the cats and kittens die."

      Ahaaa So this is the reason why I can not see the kittens and I get their dead bodies every few days and now we have only LAILA and this small guy with me ALIVE. The rest of kittens are dead. 🙁

      LAILA survived because of the care of me and my lovely daughter. This is it.

      Today I slept (actually become fainted) for several hours. 🙁 when I woke up, my Khadija gave me the whole report of the two kittens, how she fed them, what she fed them, and etc.

      I don't know why people do this? There were nearly 14 kittens in the street as I had counted a month ago. Now there are not a single left.

      ONLY LAILA and this sick girl (the new arrival which my SPY boy has given me saying,"Uncle! she is dying, please save her" I said put her down FARHAN and thank you, pray for her. Now she is better and a little bit ready to stay with us.)

      I hate DIRTY PAKIS.
      But I love PAKISTAN and kind people of PAKISTAN <3 <3 <3

      • This is depressing news. There is too much killing of cats. I agree you need to build an enclosure to protect the cats but you can’t protect them all. The cruel and bad people can’t be stopped by one person. In the UK that would be a crime and he’d be sentenced to up to one year in jail and a fine of £20,0000 maximum.

      • This is so sad! How can anyone be so cruel as to poison kittens. I really don’t know much at all about your country Ahsan but I feel so sorry for you and your daughter who are true cat lovers, having to live amongst those people who hate cats.
        I’m wondering who are street boys? Do they live on the streets? Or in houses in the streets near you? I think it’s wonderful that you are educating those boys to help fight against cruelty to cats by spying for you.
        The 2 kittens you have now are very lucky, I hope they get well and have happy lives.
        x

            • I can not make video of the area, because of personal security hazards. If we need local police, they never come to protect people, that’s it and we have to look for our self personally.

              Those boys are from very rich and good families. They are school going boys/ girls. They call me uncle Ahsan. And I specially speak with them in loving tone (not harsh tone as it is a habit here of elder people to kick out children, BULL HEADS) But as you know that I follow orthodox ISLAM, so I follow the teachings of prophets myself.

              They are 7 in total and I will not mention them at all, I don’t want to make their lives bitter. I am exposed in PoC is enough because now I don’t care for my self a lot. (I am afraid not to become CAT TALIBAAN 😉 ,some body stop me 😉 )

              But I go for a survey with KHADIJA (my daughter) and picture the dead bodies of cats who vomit green liquid from mouths. The elder cats are safe because their maturity of smell and not instantly attack towards the food makes them safe. They sniff the food first and then eat that stuff. My PINKY is safe, My KHOLLA is SAFE, Black Beauty, 50/50, LAILA, BIG SAJID, BIG TUM TUM all are safe.

              The others? I have not seen them yet! hope they are safe , too.

              Or perhaps they are dead and just CLEARED OUT. 🙁

              I really don’t have any track of them and I tell you that those feral children were very well tamed and socialized and they were not a hazard to any one or for any one. Yes! I guarantee you.

              Now, let me ask you a question. Is it possible for anyone in the west that any outsider just take the Feral full size cat in his/her arm?

              The answer is no…never! But my tamed Feral boys/girls are easy to come near any person and picked. They are groomed very well. They are never dirty, because I am not a DIRTY PAKI. I feed them the best what their food must be according to the international standards. I don’t care about cost. So, I tell you my friends! They innocent harmless friends of mine and everyone who goes near them.

              Only BIG CAT (huge KING cat) SAJID is a great TERROR for every one. He only knows me. No one can PET him or call him. He came to me when I was picking his daughter the black kitten. He meowed at me in grief and just rubbed his head with me. I pet him and my tears were just running out of my eyes. I complaint to him,”My boy! why did you left them in wild when you were raised at my terrace peacefully???” Alas we could understand the language of each other.

              Here is the dead body picture of the kitten.

              • When KHADIJA will come I will share more kittens dead pics here and me holding them.

                But we keep our LAILA inside our home because ZUMBIES are roaming outside.

              • Thanks for explaining what it is like. It seems to be quite difficult to live in safety both for cats and people where you are. I didn’t realise that you are exposing yourself to danger just by coming on this site and writing about your experiences. Knowing that I thank you again for sharing. Your experiences are valuable. People in the West know very little about life in Pakistan. I have been to Pakistan and India but most people from the West don’t visit Pakistan especially with the country’s connection with terrorism (recruiting and training). That is what we are told. Take care of yourself, Ahsan.

              • Ahsan you are a very brave man, please take good care of yourself and your daughter, I wish there was some way we could help you but we are powerless and too far away.
                Until you came to PoC I had no idea of what life is like there.
                You so obviously have an affinity with cats, there is no way an adult feral cat here would approach any person, even the tiny feral kittens are afraid of us until they are socialised.
                Stay safe!

  3. What a disgusting horrible stark place for a mother cat and her babies, how can anyone think that is acceptable! The kittens little heads are up hearing the barking dogs, those precious little lives already affected by noise to disturb their quality time with their mother before they are sold to God knows who, who will have power over their lives.
    An empty water bottle, a lax employee means lax employers, no water to drink can be fatal to a cat!
    I hated breeders to begin with and I hate them even more now I’ve seen this!
    The Stuckis sold out to a hunter, so they should regret it Cal, they deserve no luck with the money they made from their betrayal of the cats they had in their power!

    • We do not know, Ruth, how long that water bottle had been empty, and further more, we do not know if water bowls were set up in that huge space. Michael did not tell us.

      I would rather denigrate the new owner(s)/hunters, rather than taking up space here on PoC, denigrating Kathrin Stucki.

      • Cal the Stuckis betrayed those cats when they sold to a hunter! You can’t say hunters have any respect for animal life because they do not. The water bottle should not have been empty, the mother cat and kittens should not have been in that comfortless place where dogs can be heard barking.
        I only ‘take up space’ here on PoC when I have something to say about the welfare of cats.
        People almost ALWAYS let money be their God.
        It’s like Anita Roddick of the Body Shop, she protested against the use of animals in experiments, the Body Shop stuff was cruelty free but then she sold out to L’Oreal, one of the cruellest firms testing their products on animals.
        Anyone who puts money first does not truly care about animals, only about themselves.
        I will ALWAYS speak out passionately against any one who puts money before animal welfare and if anyone doesn’t like that then it’s their problem, not mine, I’m past caring what they think!

  4. What a disgusting horrible stark place for a mother cat and her babies, how can anyone think that is acceptable! The kittens little heads are up hearing the barking dogs, those precious little lives already affected by noise to disturb their quality time with their mother before they are sold to God knows who, who will have power over their lives.
    An empty water bottle, a lax employee means lax employers, no water to drink can be fatal to a cat!
    I hated breeders to begin with and I hate them even more now I’ve seen this!
    The Stuckis sold out to a hunter, so they should regret it Cal, they deserve no luck with the money they made from their betrayal of the cats they had in their power!

    • Your comment is what I’d expect from you as a passionate animal advocate and I published this because it is stark and it does show what it is like. I held it back for years. A1 Savannahs was (still is?) a top breeder with excellent facilities so you can imagine what some others are like. I am not saying all are bad but there are some bad ones with tiny cages etc. I have another video which will make you write something similar 😉

      • Yes keep on exposing the truth Michael and maybe some day those who think it’s acceptable for cats to be bred to be used and/or live in poor conditions will realise how wrong it is.
        It’s heart breaking to true cat lovers isn’t it!

        • I hate upset people who love purebred cats and breeding etc. but I believe their is no place in the world right now for cat breeding. Perhaps if every cat had a nice home it could be justified but we are far from that ideal.

          • I don’t hate upsetting them lol they need to hear the truth, that because of them breeding and selling cats, it is costing cats already born to lose their lives because of the lack of homes for them.
            I agree that if every unwanted cat had a good home then it would be justifiable to breed pedigrees but until that day comes (which sadly it never will) they should go and see some of the poor cats doomed to die and look to their conscience and ask themselves why they are helping this to happen.

    • Ruth, it is so good to hear your voice.
      I refuse to believe that Kathrin did not give her all to her cats. She saw a flaw in the insipid CFA and TICA. She saw a flaw in her own motivation to breed the cats. I do not fault her for her insight, even if it came of her own experience.

      By the way, Oreo, who I mentioned above, HAS his claws, thank goodness, he simply refused to use them.

    • The first thing that struck me, Ruth, was that goddamned empty water bottle. But then, who are you and I to judge how long it had been empty, along with the water bowls which were set up in that big space… I don’t know about you, but I have learned to not be too quick to judge until I am certain of what I am seeing.

      • I agree we should be slow to judge. We are all sinners. I remember that water bottle problem. Martin Stucki pointed it out to me. He was upset to see it and told me (or hinted to me) that it was hard to rely on staff. The bottle was empty and it was hot but I don’t think the problem existed for long enough to cause health issues.

        I do remember on one occasion being told that one of kittens being socialised in the home had been stepped on by a visitor (a builder I believe). The kitten was killed. When I was there there were about four kittens in the living room area being socialised. It would be easy to walk on them.

        • How awful, a kitten stepped on and killed, that makes me very sad, they should have had a HUGE notice up ‘THINK KITTEN!’ ‘Think cat’ is the only rule in our house for us and for any visitors too.

  5. The icon upon which my stupid comments are formed, is my Shrimp.
    I rescued a little grey mouse this evening. Oreo had it caught btwn his front paws, no claws. And he dropped it in front of me. I bent down, hoping to scoop the little adolescent prey in my outstreched hand, and she ran straight up my leg, until she reached my upper leg. My left thigh This is where it gets really comical.

      • I had my “new” used jeans off before I ran in to the kitchen. And then I carefully carried them down to the basement and out to the garage, where I ran my hand through the legs, till the mouse scurried into my hand. A cute little girl, half-grown, and so sweet. I put her in a box that she couldn’t jump from, and ran upstairs to get some oats and water. put the cat inside, and when I returned to the garage, the little brown mouse was “waiting” for me on the couch, little stinker! 😉

  6. Let me just say this. Dee, I worship the ground upon which my Shrimptaro treads. He is my heart and soul just right up there with my daughter, who it just so happened named him. And if you would like to denigrate Kathrin and Martin, for turning over A1 Savannahs to some game-jungry hunter, then so be it. She is regretting it to this day..

  7. Well, most likely she is used to the barking, which maybe doesn’t occur constantly.
    She reminds me of an Abyssinian/Savannah, maybe F3? What do you think, Michael? Thanks for uploading this vid!

    • There is quite a lot of barking. There was a family dog wandering around. I am interested in this cat (the queen). She may have been a random bred ticked tabby (large cat) but the male was perhaps an F1 or F2 Savannah. That wouldn’t produce purebred Savannahs but A1 Savannahs were not affiliated to a cat association.

      Either that or she is a Savannah cat without the classic spotted tabby coat but was a good breeder. She was large so could have been an F3 or 2 as you say. She does look like an Abyssinian. The kittens are very nice looking Savannahs with fantastic patterns on their foreheads. You can see two of them with awesome head markings.

  8. Sorry, but I find it disgusting that a mama cat is caring for her babies inside a cardboard box with barking dogs around.
    I find it disgusting that she is being bred at all.
    I hate every part of it.

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