Animal Abuse and Criminal Domestic Violence

Thank you.
All we want is this very special cat site to be just that,a cat site.
People are sure to have differing opinions and nerves are sure to fray and come out in passionate writing because cat lovers are passionate people.
The dog stories started to bring in too much other stuff and we don't want to read about dogs or about marital problems.
If we did we would go to dog sites and agony aunt sites.
Yes Edward you are entitled to your say,you don't have to be highly educated to have your own opinion.
I don't get on here as often as I'd like to as I rely on my friend's good nature to borrow her computer when she can spare it.
I do love reading about cats and am pleased this is to return to being only about cats.

The dog stories will be on hubpages.com under Elisa Taylor. Already have a few posted.

I can't blame the ladies. It is a cat site. But I won't take the wrath of writing whatever subject I feel the need to write on. So just join me as a follower on hubpages for the dog stories. They'll even notify you when a new one comes out.

I have a good cat story I'm finishing up on for tomorrow.

Hi Ed, My suggestion to 'click off' was only meant to those who wish to squabble about the content of the page, not to any new readers. Everyone deserves their input to be heard; however, lambasting a writer, be it Michael or Elisa, just because of a silly mistake or due to content that they disapprove is unnaceptable to my way of thinking.

I love this site because it is for cat lovers from people of all walks of like; however, the occasional reference of another breed, providing it enriches the subject matter, is not objectionable to me, that's all.

We value your opinion also, Ed. Please accept my apology if there was any misunderstanding. Your writing is just fine, don't ever worry about it.

Clicking off isnt what this site is all about man.
Michael has worked hard to build it up and as Ruth often says comments on articles are as important as the articles themselves.
It is very offputting to have an inbox full of "new comments on PoC" only to click on them and find they are the same one repeated 2 or 3 times because the commenter hadnt the patience to wait a minute and clicked "submit comment" again and again.
It is particulary annoying when the comments are by people squabbling about exes and washing their dirty linen in public in fact.
Anyone visiting PoC for the first time and seeing that would be put right off.
Let dog people wash their dirty linen on dog sites man leaving us to enjoy our special cat site and the like minded people we become friendly with by this site.
I work away and not usually home in the week.Im not a writer as Im not an educated man but I think even non writers deserve to have a say.
Ed

Elisa,

Your articles are appreciated and I, for one, look forward to them. Domestic violence hits all walks of life, and for ALL domesticated animals - not just cats. The occasional reference to dogs doesn't bother me in the least, especially since I grew up with a managerie.

Yes, Elisa, the nitpickers are very jealous of you because you write from the heart, are on target with most subject matter and, grammatical faux pas aside, make for interesting reading. Ignore them. They don't matter. You do. Keep those stories coming! Anyone who doesn't like them only needs to click off.

You're right Sue. I know better than to make grammatical errors. That's one of the things I try to correct before submitting. As for referring to my readers as "my readers" I'd like to invite all of you who criticize me to write and submit your own stories and you can have your own following.

People have to brag on their own accomplishments these days to be remembered. I was asked by a reader to inform PoC readers on the issues I'm involved in. I do this and I'm critisized. It's a good feeling to know I'm making a difference. It may be a small difference but it's there.

If I can get my system on Facebook put together I'll be able to notify all of my friends there on a mailing list and notify everyone at once when an article is online. I'm sure Michael wouldn't mind the extra readers I bring in. And yes I intend to max out at the 5000 friends Facebook allows. I'm only trying to help animals and I admit I'm bossy but its only because that seems to get a reaction out of people.

I read all of the stories every day and haven't seen any by my critics. There must be a topic you'd like to see published. The only way to get new writers to the site is if people write.

I do agree with everyone that I should stick to cats. I also agree the Sarge story has turned into a disaster. If anything it has taught us to report bad service to the Better Business Bureau. When I did the story, I checked the BBB and RMDT only had 1 resolved case. This story has gone national and created a lot of drama. Most of it embarrassing and senseless.

Michael was doing perfectly well on his own along with contributions about CATS from other good writers from all countries.
Then along comes Elisa who says she was begged to write this that and the other and boasts about having HER own page and sitting up day and night to please HER readers.
Her attitude has probably put many readers off.
Her articles are long and deviating and no we don't have to read them and in future I won't.
Why do people like you always think we don't care about dogs?
We do.
Plenty of people care about dogs but it's been refreshing to have a site totally about CATS.
You know yourself how much her dog stuff has attracted reams of ridiculous nonsense from people more to score off each other than about the dog Sarge.
So if you think it's jealousy of her which inspires the comments then think again Merrily,do.

As I understand it Michael is the owner of this site and makes decisions regarding its content.I am sure it is an enormus task for him each and every day and he has asked Elisa to write articles that may be of interest to his readers.

Obviously she can't please every person who visits this site, however you all have the right to skip any article that doesn't interest us, or contribute with something of our own, that we think may be of value to our fellow readers.

The connection between domestic abuse and animal abuse is well documented, and yet one angry poster equates a story about that abuse to a simple marital dispute. Tell that to the cat who is terrified of it's abuser on a daily basis and cowers under the bed.

Or an article about a dog, am I to believe that all of you cat lovers are totally uncaring when you hear of a dog in desperate need of help?

Hopefully you will all stop acting like little school children who are having a tantrum, and act like the grown up that you are. It is sad to see those of you who are ganging up on Elisa simply because you are jealous.

I personally don't know Elisa, but I respect Michaels decision to have her write on his site, and I can choose what I want to read.

I think some of you need to examine you motives for your childish behaviour.

Anonymous posters make no impact.
I'd have written Michael is valued here BY us cat lovers but at least Sue had the guts to point out
a mistake often made by elementary school children and not by 'sought after' writers

AND

ME and the others agree with her
Erm sorry,the others and I
ROFLOL

Sorry,couldn't resist that Sue.
99/100 for you.

What is wrong with that?
Michael IS here WITH us.He isn't WITHOUT us,is he lol
Take no notice of nit pickers Sue.
Anonymous she did say she isn't perfect.
Who is?
Are you?
At least Sue nor anyone else acts as if they part own PoC and go on Facebook begging people to come to PoC and make nice comments about her because someone here has upset her.
TSK TSK guess you didn't know that.

I think Michael has quite enough to do and is very valued here WITH us cat lovers.

TSK, TSK guess you taught algebra LOL

Or should that be here here Sue?
lol lol lol

I tried to ignore this mistake but the school teacher in me can't do that.
To be a successful writer and taken seriously one has to use correct grammar
'It was a test me and Michael were doing on the site'is an example of the way not to write.
Not only should you always put the other person first but you should also check your grammar by leaving him out and then you would see how
'It was a test me was doing'is incorrect.
'It was a test Michael and I were doing'without the other person reads'it was a test I was doing'
100/100
Why not start your own dog site?
I think Michael has quite enough to do and is very valued here with us cat lovers.
Good luck,you could be a successful writer if you would pay attention to details.
No I'm not perfect myself but I hate to see obvious glaring grammar mistakes as they can take away all the credibility of the writer.

There won't be any more dog articles from me. You may not know this but it was a test me and Michael were doing on the site. He OK'd all of the dog stories to see how they would go over here. I was hesitant but we wanted to give it a shot.

You're right that it's a cat site and I'm going back to all cats. Mostly involving recognizing good cat rescue programs or good fundraising ideas. I may have a cat abuse story every now and then.

I was going to do a story about California State Bill 250 but there's no way I can do it without being long-winded and its a confusing bill but worth reading. It would give me a headache to write the story.

Also I'd like to warn readers I will no longer do the cruelty law strengthening for state bills named after dogs. So those people will have to find the info another way. I've already reported on Susie's Law and Nitro's Law but no more dogs.

Since I won't be doing the dog named cruelty bills you won't have to read as many stories by me since there several now being put before the government.

Sorry readers. No more experimenting whatsoever unless Michael want to start at site called pictures-of-dogs.org and I'll write for it about my dog issues. I've already had a dog offer and will let everyone know when I start. The cats will stay here as Michael has been good to me.

Sorry if I sounded harsh but what tipped me was her plan to introduce more dog stuff into PoC.

This great cat site.

There are dog sites for dog lovers.

That on top of the speils about Sarge and the lengthy marital dispute on that same page was a step too far.

I do enjoy PoC.
I'm not a writer and don't always comment on what I read so I have no right to judge.
But Micheal I do enjoy your articles and the other regulars articles as well.

Thanks for your thoughts. I take your comment seriously and I will consider it. I try and present a wide cross section of topics, which is one reason why Elisa writes for PoC. But I don't want to upset regular visitors.

That said Elisa's articles only constitute a very small part of the whole (about 30 articles out of about 5,000 pages) and she brings a different perspective.

I am concerned that if it is only me writing regularly the site becomes less balanced and rounded.

Anyway, thank you for your thoughts.

This used to be a good site with good interesting articles about cats written mainly by Micheal.

Its now taken over by one writer in particular who although well meaning is too long winded and deviates too much to other subjects for their articles to be digested as easily as were Micheals.

OK if that writer fulfills her promises to attack the declawing issue I'll eat my words.
But so far its all talk and no action.

There are others equally as committed to animal welfare and who do as much if not more.

Lets have some support for them too.

I feel for you. I hope you are back on your feet. Some men don't realise how damaging their behavior can be while some are just plain nasty and deliberately hurt their wives or girlfriends.

You may know that I used to be a family solicitor (lawyer) and was frequently asked to apply for injunctions nearly always on legal aid (paid for by the taxpayer).

One of the worst kinds of "abuse" happens when parents fight over their children on separation but that is another subject.

Response to Veda's comment.

Although I respect your viewpoint, I think you are being harsh and unkind. Elisa is confident of her thoughts. She is intelligent and, yes, she can be a bit bossy. But she is also helpful, thoughtful and kind.

The style of writing is not due to arrogance as you suggest but confidence. Confident writing is good writing. It provokes thought and response. It presents an opinion. It is proactive rather then reactive.

There is too much bland duplication on the internet. You can't say that about Elisa's writing. And she contributes.

Finally got the good sense to leave. He told me one day it was him or the dogs and I took him up on the offer. He had so many friends it wasn't even funny. I'll never have another relationship because of him. I'd rather be with my pets than take being yelled at daily. Email me when you have a chance and we'll talk more. My stories have turned into a soap opera forum lately but me and you should talk. Find me on Facebook if you want.

After the first two dogs died in my neighbors care, he aquired a third dog, and I could once again hear him screaming and hitting the new dog.
I talked to his landlord again, and told him if he didn't stop this kid from repeatedly bringing home dogs and killing them I would have the sheriff over there every day until it stopped.
Finally the landlord took action and told the kid he could not have a dog or he would have to move. I saw the kid put the dog in his car, and he came home without her, I can only hope he didn't just dump her out in the desert to fend for herself.
I wish I could have helped by taking the dog, but remember my landlady shoots cats, and I am looking for a home for myself and my two cats.
If he comes home with another pet of any kind I will call animal control, and they will take the pet from him, however this is my last option of choice, because they will probably euthanise the poor dog.
Animal abuse is much more prevelant than most people know, it just happens behind closed doors.
As for Mr Wonderful, he actually treated his daughter like a princess, and waitress are to drool over, Narcissists save ther hatred and anger for their nearest and dearest. The problem is even when you are involved you can't imagine anyone making a decision to be that evil.

Where have you been? I've been worried to death about you with the sadistic neighbor and all. I want you to read Know Your Neighbor! I wrote a few days ago.

I've heard to watch a man and how he treats the women in the family and also waitresses when you go out with him. That's the way he will treat you. If he's constantly screaming at the women in his family-RUN!

I was with a man like that several years ago and the police wouldn't do anything because he used to be the police. Try fighting that!

Is your neighbor still killing animals?

It took me a long time to understand abuse, I thought as long as the person didn't hit you, well......I met a man a few years ago, he was charming , and well liked by everyone. He swept me off my feet, at first, and then after we were living in the same house, things changed,he became critical, possessive,disliked my friends,my pets, and if I dared to question him I was told I was the crazy one, I needed help etc. He charmed my friend and family alike, and gathered sympathy from them that he had to deal with this crazy person.
I began to feel as though I was crazy, and sought the help of a phychaitrist. After a couple of years of massive amounts of medication I began to think I was suffering from anxiety, and stress. I had pets and am sure they suffered from the screaming as much as I did, and yes they were the reason that I stayed, in addition to the fact that he always needed my money, and finally I could not afford to leave.
I stopped taking the medication, and started searching the internet for answers, and what I found is frightening, this man clearly had conduct disorder as a child, and now shows signs Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and he is an emotional abuser. Don't think as long as he doesn't hit you there is no harm done, you are changed forever. Many women suffer from Post Tramatic Stress disorder caused by this type of abuse, this is real , and for me this is now. I am just now moving on and getting my life together, and this has been the most difficult journey of my life.
So thank you Elisa for telling these stories, however you choose to, because if you save one person from these monsters it is worth it.

I don't mean to but I always have so much to cover. And yes I will toot my own horn because anyone who devotes any time at all to animal causes is important. That includes me. I like to think my articles help supply people all over the world with the numbers needed to get animal cruelty laws toughened. A lot of people don't know where to start. Just writing to a senator and saying "stop doing this" doesn't seem to work. That's why I add the numbers. I also do a lot of shelter and rescue stories and give different ways of fundraising so others may get some ideas. In the Feral Cat Coalition story I wrote about a mobile feral clinic because its important to the caregivers and also any vets who may want to do that with their practice.

I could take all of the comments and suggestions out of my articles if that's what my readers want. But that would make me a reporter instead of an editorial writer. This is a very family oriented site and if we didn't share opinions it would be half the fun. I've even butted heads with Michael (site owner) a few times but that's OK. We try to learn from each other.

I personally look forward to the stories each day

The reason I started the Facebook page was to give the crossposters a page to post the animals on death row. A lot of people don't like crossposters messing up their page. I don't need the page or the Readers Forum except to get the word out when the stories go online. So anyone who needs to post anything has my page to do so.

This just goes to show I can't make all of the people happy all of the time. That would be impossible

That you are so seriously up yourself that any sensible stuff you write is so far outweighed by your self importance that it becomes unreadable. None of the other writers issue orders like you do.I would look at my writing style if I was you honey

You have far surpassed yourself with this outstanding article. Thank you so very much.

For the record, I am sure most people have heard the name of the infamous Jeffrey Dahmer - the cannibalistic serial killer who tortured, murdered, then ate his victims. He did it for years. After his capture here in the USA, he was found to have a freezer(s) full of human remains chopped up - even in his own refrigerator freezer!

Would it surprise anyone to know that, growing up, he began his sadistic quest by abusing, torturing and killing animals? (Karma did him in - he was murdered while incarcerated. Guess there are animal lovers even in jail.)