By Keala Meyers
Lion stalks buffalo
In this debate I'm going to cover just basic's on the lion, we don't need to cover attribute's of minor weight and power because they are basically anatomically the same cat, that just has evolved an adapted to there terrain and habits differently.
And I must add, that it is impossible to separate them by far margins, being they are so akin in every attribute and weaponry, when it would be just like implementing who has the more counts, if they were to fight a white man vs a black man. It would be hard to even get a candidate, that would represent their race or species, like say... Mike tyson vs Chuck Norris. Every white man isn't Chuck Norris, just as every black man isn't Mike Tyson an the counts would be astronomical to give a "average" number of who, "would" win.
The lion has been given the title King of the beast and animal Kingdom for resemblance of Noble King's, such as "Courage", to go up against the greatest of odd's, be it animals that are 20x larger an stronger, such as the bull elephant. To being out numbered by 10 to 1, such as the hyena's and 300 to 3 from water and cape buffalo and has many a, times to claim victory's in documented accounts of those event's.
As do most Kings have, as do most lions, they share a resemblance of great "Power". Shown against war like how human Kings do with other opposing Kingdoms or threats, so do lions do with their prides with other rival prides and animals. Lion's have killed animals like the crocodile, who has the hardest bite pressure on the planet, only to be rivaled by the hippo's bite and great white shark's bite, that stay around 3000 to 4000 Psi.
Who although bear's are larger in weight and power, you can see the article I presented of a lion killing a grizzly and polar bear (Separate account's). Who averagely have around 500 to a 1000 pounds of weight over the African lion. Lions use there combined attribute's of power, ferocity, speed and intelligence to win their fights against bigger and stronger foes like the hippo, who could just easily dispatch a lion with 1 or 2 bites and ramming of the rhino with almost unmatched brute power, with speeds equal as bears just look at the pictures an articles I've presented that show what lions have accomplished.
The lion has also resembled look appeal an all around attributes of great Kings as well, people misinterpret the title "King" given to lions, thinking only because they are good fighters and ergo given their title. No, they have pristine majestic looks, that most men idealise in themselves and like every good and noble king, they have high respect and kindness for there family an Kingdoms, shown in there social groups which no other cat on earth has a "pride", which resembles a "Kingdom" of unity.
They don't just kill, kill, kill, they have been shown allowing almost every other animal to sit side by side with them at water holes an grassy plains. Small prides consist of 2 male and 10 females and numbers grow as big as 9 brothers, who tolerate each other and share 20 females making 1 pride. That is why lion vs tiger can only be in a hypothetical match of a cage or arena because 1 on 1 for a lion vs any and every predator is, and will always be 50/50, let alone what nature has already set, concluding they live in prides, so no single predator or rare group formed on earth can oppose a large healthy pride of lions, who adapted that way because of there habitat.
Lion's habitats unlike the tiger's, has yearly migrations of mostly every animal. That with numbers great as 1,000 to 10,000 and possibly more, have high hatred for their predators and offspring and kill them more do to migration terms, so that is why evolution has granted them "unity" with their prides, to better survive opposing great numbers. The lion has been shown time and time again to be the superior cat to tigers in fighting traits, which would only be ignorance to claim tigers in the wild fight more. When the fact is yes, tigers clash for territorial rights and mating seasons but these events usually happen only 1 to 4 times a year depending how many tigers populate 1 district. Lions live in prides and have pecking order in who eats first off of there kills, so when there is a lot of males in 1 pride their fights are almost weekly, let alone clashes with nomadic males and rival prides monthly for over throwing pride rulers and also territorial fights and mating rights as well. Better yet, a hypothetical situation - think of a bus ride that has only 2 pissed off people in it,{ as tiger's are solitary}, there's a chance that only 1 fight will occur, now think of a bus that hold's 15 pissed off people {as a lion's "pride"} the chances of them fighting are 15, that is basically why they say lions fight more, its common sense.
![](/wp-content/uploads/images/lion-vs-bear.gif)
Now down to the extreme side of the debate, who actually wins more? I have seen an abundant on both sides, but on this site I have seen a few people lying on accounts, to catch the eye vote of people who only know the basics... so I will name a few for the under dog of this site the "Lion".
1. Animal Expert Dave hoover said lions majority always win against tigers.
2.Indian Zooligist an big cat Expert Jam sahib say's lions always win.
3. Animal Trainer and Expert Louis Roth favors the lion over the tiger in a fight.
4. Animal Expert Alfred court thinks the lion wins over the tiger in a fight.
5.Animal Trainer John Helliot favors the lion over the tiger in a fight.
6.Animal Expert Dave Salmoni says he'd give the edge to a lion in a fight with a tiger.
7.Animal Tamer Clyde Beatty said lions will win more fights with tigers.
8.Animal enthusiast and poet Oliver Goldsmith ranked the lion over the tiger.
9.Animal Expert an Tamer Courtney cooper said lions usually win more in tiger fights.
10.Poet an painter Geroge Buffon picked lions over tigers in a fight.
1.Genius books/Animal facts, Lion named Nero killed Tim the tiger in an Australian zoo - Documentary.
2.1936 Agartala zoo in bengal, a lion kills a tiger. (Local news report)
3.1935 Sikestonians saw a lion kill a tiger in a local town circus act.(Documentary)
4.1934 2 tigers died, In the movie devil tiger from a lion-(Video)
5.1955 oct, 6 Naturual history society, Page 465-468, 3 separate accounts lion won all 3.(Documentary)
6.1960 Korea pit fights Male lions won majority of all fights.(Hidden news Report)
7.1981 Martin. L Albert witnessed a lion kill a tiger.(Documentary)
8.1954 Lion kills tiger with one blow in Boltimore zoo.(Documentary)
9.1935 In the town Bedford, Masachusetts a zoo lost a tiger to a lion.(Local news)
10.Gir foreset 3 tigers vs 3 lions, all lions won. (Video) -Youtube-
11.2011 Korea two teen lions killed a adult Bengal tiger in an enclosure.(Video)- Youtube-
I have more on the world's most famous predator tamer Clyde Beatty, shown in one of those picture articles I presented of his performance accident having a lion kill a tiger, who worked with big cats as a circus performer who had lost an abundant of animals in accidental fights. Who stated in a report he had lost around 4 lions to tigers an in his whole carrier of 40 years working with the two, had around 50 tigers killed by lions in accidental clashes.
And that's not all that I have. Again I do know tigers have killed lions just the same, but I have found more for the lion's side and by all means if you do decide to get your accounts from the pathetic jackjaccksonj.com than prepare to be humiliated on a blue print answer sheet which I myself made by mixing and matching all the accounts of the 150 accounts he repeated... all the 100 accounts that are just opinion and 80 accounts that was pure bullcrap that he changed the wording's around from real documented article's. Leaving only around 25-30 that had real sources to the account, even one man Clyde Beatty and source count is higher than jackjacksonj's intire life collecting accounts of being a lion hater. So unless you have at-least 100 real documented accounts with reliable source's than feel free to email me at whiteowl89@gmail.com for a good old debate.
But to other fans an debaters of "both", an the real deal lion an tiger lovers like “ME”, forgive me for being so blunt, on my evidence and show casing these accounts and past statements, if we all do love them so much, it would be appreciated for people to state their love for "both" besides not just there battling each other because I’m a man who enjoys legal boxing, kickboxing wrestling, judo, mma .etc.. to its fullest, an won't shy away from these topics, but! It would be nice to hear, some congratulations for both sides Lions an Tigers, being they are getting closer an closer to extinction, I can start it off
with saying…
-I LOVE TIGERS AND LIONS- … “Aloha nui loa”
Keala Meyers
Thanks for your input on this. My experience tells me that the opinion of the general public is split around 50:50.
Lions win more then tigers on average there is only a small size difference and lions have manes thicker the mane better the protection. Lions just win more against tigers than vise versa.