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  1. I love this article. It states very clearly the evidence, no insults or bias, and really leaves you to think. This really helped clear up my questions about exotic hybrids.
    I live in an area with plenty wildlife preserves and rats, so getting a cat to de-mouse my house a great idea. I heard of the hybrids, and was immediately intrigued. But, I am strongly against buying pets from breeders, since it’s wrong, and what about the poor cats I the shelters who are condemned because they’re not some fancy purebreed? I’d love a Chausie, but I’d only rescue one, never buy. I’d even be okay with a regular black cat. I agree with Marc on this one.

  2. same they would need alot of land and wouldnt buy one would only be rescue. Dont know how people can use them as a domestic animal as would require alot of time and a big backyard

  3. BCR like to spread anti-cat propaganda, period. For all their scare stories there are no doubt plenty of well-adjusted early gen hybrids living with people who are well aware of their requirements. I’ve been offered an F1 hybrid in the past, but declined as I don’t have the domestic set-up to properly accommodate a high-energy cat with some interesting “quirks”. Not all would-be owners consider those issues, and get a hybrid expecting it to behave like a domestic.

    The super-ferals issue is also a scare story (I’ve published a long and detailed critique of the Australian Savannah study showing how flawed it is). Early gen hybrid males are sterile and the females would breed with ordinary domestics, as would their offspring (males become fertile only at F4 or F5 gen). By that point, the genes are so diluted that they are well within the normal size and behaviour range of domestic cats.

  4. I am sure someone would snap her up, but the hard part is finding that person. Nature has done it’s part very well. Now we humans have to do the rest and not let her go to waste.

  5. Neda is a very nice girl. No biting, no scratching. I wonder what kind of a male would be best for breeding from her to retain those characteristics. Cats like this would have been great for a new natural breed instead of that fake Aphrodite breed which is just the the native Turkish Angora.

    • The face of the leopard cat is similar. Of course the markings are stronger.

      I would have thought one of the wild cat look-a-likes but which was completely domestic (no wild cat genes) such as the Ocicat. But I am no breeder.

      The impressive bit is the white around the eyes. The tiger has this too. It seems to be a wild cat trait. Breeders of Toygers might be interested.

      You may remember that Jean Mills went to India and brought back to California a street cat which helped her start the Bengal cat. Neda is that sort of cat in my mind but I am probably miles off track and talking baloney.

      This is your photo lightened a bit:

      wild cat look-a-like

  6. This is my girl called Neda. She is still intact. She is one of those rarities , a red female with a wildcat look. This is perhaps one of the cats UC Davis referred-to as “unknown type, probably from Cyprus”! They know where she is from. It was written clearly on the form as in every case.
    No further action taken.
    Another golden opportunity lost by those silly people.

  7. I would consider taking ina one of these cats – or maybe two – if they needed a home (I’d never buy one, only rescue) – BUT only if I had at least a couple or few acres of land with a fence around they could not possibly get past.

    Then I might do it because these cats otherwise live in cages and that’s horrible.

    But that would never happen here because it’s clearly completely illegal. Thank goodness. It’s depressing. Breeding in cages in depressing. Some breeders let the cats in their homes freely and that’s ok – but the ones who have bigger amounts and cages – should be put out of business immediately.

    It should simply be illegal to keep any cat in a cage for longer than a few hours. Same for dogs. Only at the shelter can they do that. It’s depressing.

    • The only breeding I can condone is conservational breeding. I think along the lines of what Harvey is doing. He’s doing something useful in my opinion. But most of them are not. They are being creative with something that shouldn’t be theirs to play with.

      And yes it’s disgusting to put a large animal in a cage with a small one for mating – that is truly an utterly revolting thing to do – and that’s why I could never breed even if I didn’t think it was a bad thing to do. Because the act of putting a big wild cat in with a little regular cat like some kind of mad scientist disgusts me. It’s the epitome of human arrogance and freakshow qualities.

    • I completely agree. If there are rejected cats out there as indicated I’d like to have a house with a decent amount of land to let the a wild cat hybrid enjoy life in a safe environment.

      I am sure if he/she had the space and life that was more normal a lot of the health and behavior issues would fade away.

    • When I visited A1 Savannahs (and I talk freely now that ownership has changed hands) I was disturbed to see all these beautiful cats, and they were truly beautiful, in small enclosures all their lives. This is how even the best cat breeders treat their cats. It is the norm.

      Some enclosures are entirely outside. The climate in mid-Oklahoma can be extreme. Very hot in summer. They have fans but it looked tough to me.

      While I was there a rabbit wandered near a serval’s enclosure and the serval killed the rabbit. I guess he grabbed the rabbit through the fencing. In another enclosure this cat, Morpheus was pacing left and right all day long.

      serval cat hissing in a cage

      You can see more here:

      https://pictures-of-cats.org/male-serval-morpheus-and-partner-penelope.html

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