1. So Albert didn’t want an explanation after all?

   Why ask for one then?

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2. Condoms and pulling out is the answer. Fewer people eat less food (cats) and also complain less. Rat (and every other problem) solved.

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   • Fewer people = less garbage = fewer rats.

     “pulling out” isn’t very effective contraception, but spay/neuter might work. All voluntary of course 😼

     I rather like rats, they are beautifully sociable creatures, unlike so many humans.

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     • I was being funny, though I think there are too many people. Call me anti-social. Good point about the garbage.

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       • People call me much worse 😺

         ..especially when I stand up for cats or any species in need of help. They take it personally, silly precious petals.

         My comment alluding to our lack of sociability is about how we, in the modern world have lost our essential ability to create and maintain caring community.

         Every human was born loving, sociable and non violent. I believe it is the most essential element of our evolution and survival. Hence my nihilism 😸

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3. Jane. Thank you for your well-written and informative comment. I have the experience in Costa Rica of living the high class expensive “Residencial de Aves de Paraiso in Los Angeles de San Francisco de Heredia who’s residents has lots of expensive pedigree dogs that roamed around freely and consequently inhibited cats from doing their job. Particularly the rubbish collection point was swarming with rats and no cats in sight. Some of my cats to my regret and mistake were allowed to roam freely but one day never came home. It seems to be a hostile environment out there for cats. They do a valuable public service in controlling then rodent population but people there do not recognise that. They prefer a subservient ego elating dog which makes them feel important. Never mind that the noisy dog prevents neighbours from sleeping or relaxing. That is far from neighbourly and considerate behaviour. It comes down to lack of brains.

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   • Thank you Harvey, for sharing your experience. It is very interesting to learn how similar these scenarios are in different locations.

     The “subserviant ego elating dog” (beautifully expressed) prevails in ever increasing numbers everywhere I believe, yet never seems to attract the extreme degree of chagrin & persecution that the free roaming domestic feline does.

     I am sorry that your cat did not come home, it is an unbearable loss. Up until the fairly recent past, my cats were free roaming too. As are most cats in the UK today.

     I would like to see a world where community cats, semi/full feral or tame are cherished and valued for their true worth.

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4. Cats certainly do kill rats and very big ones too. In the past couple of weeks my cats have deposited 6 huge rats on my kitchen terrace. I suppose the heavy and frequent rain of late has driven them out of their hidey-holes in the nearby countryside. They rarely catch any rats during the dry weather. None that I see anyway. The people of the Middle East have known very well of the rodent-controlling abilities of cats, particularly in Turkey, which led to their domestication thousands of years ago. The people of China and Swaziland seem very slow to learn. Will it take an outbreak of the bubonic plague to teach them a lesson? Attached is a photo of a typical street scene in Cyprus of friendly well-fed free-roaming cats which rarely see the inside of anyone’s house. The rats and mice don’t stand a chance.

   

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   • What a beautiful group of happy, free roaming ginger tabbies, they are gorgeous.

     Your cats are good very hunters. I think it is wonderful that they have the opportunity to pursue their instincts and practice their skill. I think hunting is beneficial to cats psychologically too.

     We used to have an excellent ‘ratter’. Tabbus would bring a set of juvenile rats, often 3 or 4 (maybe a nests worth) and lay them down in a line on the door mat. He’d then come inside & tell us all about it.

     Spring & autumn seemed to be his most favoured hunting seasons. Big adult rats were a bit rarer.

     I really hope that humans do not succeed in breeding out the hunting instinct of the domestic cat. Humans have made a big mess of the cat in many spheres, especially by the practices of some misguided pedigree breeders.

     The poor cat was persecuted so severely in medieval Europe, hence bubonic plague getting such a grip. I think your question is very timely for the people of China & Swaziland but human beings can be very slow to learn, sadly.

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5. Why were cats domesticated in the first place?

   Because of their rodent deterring abilities. The presence of cats will deter all rodents generally, whether the cats kill them or not.

   Any rat infected with toxoplasmosis will lose fear of cats, making it easier for inclined cats to kill them – bonus! Evolution is wonderful.

   Old countryside belief from the UK:- Wherever there are dogs, there will be rats. Wherever there are cats, there will be no rats.

   In my experience, this is true.

   As ever, nature abhors a vacuum. Dispose of the cat population, rats will move in to mop up human waste.

   As ever, cats are the ones who suffer.

   Cat eating is a recently (1980s) revived practice in China, from times of great rural famine. It happens mostly in the province of Guangdong. Cats are slaughtered brutally and eaten by the well off, educated middle classes in restaurents. Not by the poor.

   There is absolutely NO historical prerogative for the obscene Yulin Festival where cats and dogs are slaughtered in tens of thousands, and eaten as a means to bring in tourism to revive failing businesses in the area. One Mayor is responsible for the idea and promotion of this repulsive event.

   Speak to Chinese people. They will verify this.

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   • My reading of the ability of cats to deter rats is that their performance is variable. It is not automatic today (as opposed to the days when cats were first domesticated) that domestic cats are willing to hunt and kill rats. Mice are a different proposition. Cats can deter rats. Africa might be a different kettle of fish as the cats are often semi-feral and less cosseted. They are probably more effective at rodent suppression.

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     • In my experience, well fed cats, hunt more often and more successfully.

       Hunting skill is usually determined by how well/if the mother cat taught her kittens. They all still have the instinct to some degree. Environment & opportunity seem to sway whether instinct develops into skill.

       In our modern world, kittens are often removed from their mothers, far too early, so even if mum is a hunter, they don’t get that full education.

       The very presence of cats, via all forms of scent can be enough to deter rats/mice, however, the food drive of rodents is high so a few dare devils will often prevail, especially if there is a lot of food concentrated in an area, due to human waste

       I am not convinced that domesticated feline or
       murine behaviour around the world, differs much when both are partially reliant on human populations for survival.

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       • I disagree that WELL FED cats hunt more or are better at hunting/killing. That hasn’t been my experience, I’ve never read that and it doesn’t make sense to me at all. Did you make a typing error? If not, please explain.

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         • No, I did not make a typing error.

           Think about it. Well nourished, fit hunters have better cognition, less irrational urgency, less desperation that can lead to poor execution of hunting skills. Their physical endurance and immediate strength & energy are also considerably better when they are well nourished and fit.

           Cats, even the big wild ones, even in times of plenty have relatively poor returns on their hunting efforts.

           Look up David Attenborough’s ‘Dynasties’ – the episode about the Marsh Lions of the Masai Mara reserve. That episode illustrates the claim clearly and visually.

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         • PS: Starving cats, stray or feral are more likely to scavenge, carrion or human garbage, than hunt.

           Hunting requires a big investment of energy, which a poorly nourished hunter does not have.

           Ferals tend to form colonies around human populations, where the opportunities to scavenge are greater.

           Mountain Lions/Cougars invading urban residential areas are an example of a wild animal taking advantage of human populations and the food opportunities that humans provide. Left over food waste, open houses, gardens containing small pets, barbeques left out after use, all attract these big cats as they are a less energy demanding source of food than hunting for wild prey is. This has come about due to a reduction in natural prey sources, due to human encroachment on this big predators own environment.

           Many wild animals will exploit the waste matter, unguarded food sources, provided by humans. In some cases, the humans themselves are the easy food source.

           Bears, racoons tigers, panthers all do it too. Modern humans frequent supermarkets, take away food outlets, rather than run for twenty miles with spears/bows & arrows, pursuing suitable prey.

           Feeding birds in gardens, seeds, fats, meal worms etc, is an example of humans inviting other species a low energy expenditure opportunity to be nourished.

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