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Two New Hairless Cat Breeds: SphynxieBob and BamBob — 18 Comments

  1. These cats are created by a business (rather than a cattery) registered with REFR (which is not a recognised cat registry). They won’t be recognised by TICA or genuine registries because they break a number of recently introduced rules on breeding different mutations together. The article is basically an advert.

    If you look at the breeds listed by REFR, many will never get past the “just a couple of litters” stage, but registering them with a name and a sort of standard helps with selling the cats to Joe Public. A couple of the REFR breeds have been renamed and re-registered with TICA, but hairless bobtails won’t be among them.

    • Thanks for your input Sarah. My thoughts concur with yours. REFR is almost meaningless and as you say these breeds won’t be truly recognised. Thanks for the update on TICA. I suppose the question is will they public go for them. My guess is that a small number might. The Munchkin is quite popular for instance and so is the Sphynx.

    • We agree with you Albert. Breeders breed cats for themselves with little sensitivity to what they are doing from the cat’s perspective. It is like creating a product for the breeder.

      • My cat was slated for extinction by the breeder due to a defect. My identity remains guarded to protect my baby’s identity and that of her loving vet. The others in the litter were not so impaired but they did not survive. Breeding is clearly a business, not a love affair in most cases. An unkempt Sphynx is slimy in coat, not sweet smelling, and very sad. Their humans must be very attentive. It’s like giving kids a bunny for Easter…how cute and how mindless.

        • Thanks for sharing the story of your Sphynx and your honesty about the maintenance required to keep them clean and healthy. I think those are aspects of owning a Sphynx which many people simply aren’t aware of, but should be to ensure they can provide the necessary level of care.

          Your vet sounds lovely… a real antidote to the likes of cat killing vet Lindsey.

  2. Having a harless little Sphynx love whose survival was not clear for first year of her life, then finding out that the vet who we adopted her from had carried her around everywhere for the first four months of her life because she needed constant attention, I have to warn that the breed requires a commitment to continuous care.

    I can’t imagine how frightening this period of my kitty’s life must have been for her.

    Further, to my knowledge, cat allergies are due to dander sensitivity. Although a Sphynx has no hair she has the potential for more dander than a haired cat.

    An lastly, since the Sphynx tail is held in a manner that is distinctive to breed and it is used intensively for balance, I fear for the lack of it both from a safety standpoint as well as a psychological stantpoint.

    I totally agree with the previous comments.

    • I like your comment RM. Very sensible. The breeder mentions or hints at her creation being hypoallergenic because they little hair but as you say they can still cause an allergic reaction.

      The Fel d 1 protein, produced largely by cat saliva and sebaceous glands, is the primary allergen present on cats. Hair is not in the equation.

  3. I quote Owen Grady (Chris Pratt) in “Jurassic World”: “Probably not a good idea.” And since I’m on a Jurassic movie kick, here’s Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum – Jurassic Park): “Just because you can do it doesn’t mean you should.”

      • I loved Jeff Goldblum in the Jurassic Park films. He was the best human character there, in my opinion. “World” was better than I thought it would be. Chris Pratt was very good and I had no problem with Claire running around in those high heels. I’ve know women who could do that in real life. Of course, they weren’t being chased by a T-Rex.

  4. More insanity in my opinion. People get pleasure from some pretty strange things. Creating new breeds of cats seems selfish and irresponsible.

    • Sandra: I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said.

      We do not need any more breeds of cat. Especially those which have been deliberately inflicted with physical traits which are considered detrimental to their health and welfare. The UK’s cat registry the GCCF would not recognise either The Sphyniebob or the Bambob, because of the bobbed tails, lack of fur and short legs.

      The Manx and Sphynx are the only exceptions to the GCCF ruling, because both breeds were established before the decision was made not to recognise or register any new breeds suffering similar physical handicaps.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if TICA were to recognise these new breeds or add them to their experimental register. In their quest to become the largest registry in the world, it seems to me that they have an ‘anything goes’ policy, regardless of the impact that has on the welfare of the cats themselves 🙁

      • Rules have been greatly updated to prevent such mix-and-match breeding. Nowadays, if you want to use a Munchkin to found a new breed, you have to get permission of the Munchkin breed committee. Same goes for using Sphynx or any other structural or fur-type mutation – you have to get the permission of the breed committee of the breed in which the mutation originally occurred (or, more likely, the breed in which it was originally registered). Breeds that got recognition before the rules changed will not lose recognition, but new mix-and-match breeds are likely to be refused any type of recognition. These days, the only “anything goes” registries are the online “paper registries.”

        • Interesting to learn that rules have been updated regarding mix and match breeding. I wasn’t aware of this. If that decision is based on putting the welfare of cats first, then it’s welcome news.

          Other than not being able to register their breed with one of the recognsied registries (and all that entails), are there other disadvantages in not seeking the permission of those breed committees before creating a new breed? What is there to deter people from creating new breeds and registering them elsewhere?

          • A lot of other registries already won’t recognise the mix-and-match cats (in much of the EU there is companion animal legislation that bans certain traits and, being legislation, it overrides registry rules). Paper registries are the exception. Since cat shows are run by registries or welfare societies, those “outsider breeds” wouldn’t be accepted for exhibition at shows.

            As for disadvantages … do we need another Munchkinised breed? Or another bald breed derived from a Sphynx? There is a loophole – what if a lookalike mutation occurs spontaneously and is developed?

            More here: http://messybeast.com/mutation-who-owns.htm (something I wrote when the rules were changed)

            • Thanks for the additional info Sarah.

              I especially enjoyed your article, because I’ve been wondering how breed committees expect to trademark mutations and if that’s even feasible.

    • Yes, I don’t want to upset the breeder but I agree with you. People should not amuse themselves creating new creatures. It is not right.

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