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  1. The comments have been closed. However Ken wanted to respond and I have allowed it. The comments will be closed again. Sorry. That is my decision.

    Here we go, Thanks again….I know this will continue to antagonize people on your point and I will understand if it is not allowed.

    Many of us who have cats have researched feline nutrition and have come to the conclusion that wet food is better and healthier for cats then dry food.

    Well where do you get the nerve to say that you know more then most vets about feline nutrition?

    After all the vet has that education, that degree, and that experience. Who are you to tell the vet that you will not feed dehydrating low protein KD to your crf cat?

    You are the owner, the caregiver that has the most interest in your cat’s health cause it is part of your family, that’s who.

    You cannot possibly expect that a vet knows everything about every disease and problem that every domesticated animal would have, can you?

    Do you believe that 10 20 30 years ago that the treatment for a disease may have been wrong back then and has been changed? How about even if the treatment worked, could it possible have been improved over time? When did your vet go to school? What was the last course your vet took?

    Not all medicine works as simple as taking 2 pills for a headache. I bring this up because ultimately, the responsibility to take care of our loved ones as well as ourselves is on us.

    Feline diabetes treatment has changed a lot over the years.

    I am going to take the comments by me and the OP and put them together so the complete story is there. I just ask that you have an open mind and read all the evidence of what was written before making a decision of what is right and wrong here.

    From the first post of OP (Original Poster)

    It was weeks of to and fro the vets and blood tests and stress the first time, he wouldn’t eat all day and just hunched miserably. We took him in to see her every few days, then weekly, then fortnightly. Then a fortnight ago out of the blue he was unwell, he seemed very tired, watching for signs of hypoglaecemia so we gave him some honey and took him in. He had very suddenly gone into remission!

    But poor Walter had been through so much trauma his little body was protesting and he went off his food.

    My first post.

    As stress and other factors can raise the blood glucose they cannot get the correct information to be able to tell a person how much insulin to give. You don’t want to go to these appointments.

    (I wrote this cause the vets cannot get a correct blood glucose number at the office making dosing advice based on those numbers dangerous).

    The number 2 cause of diabetes is steroids. Your cat could have been killed, crippled, blinded or lost some of it’s minds function. That is what hypoglycemic attacks can do. The scary thing is that you are no where close to being alone. Now I am going to take some of what was written in response and put it together with what I wrote.

    op

    nor has Walter had excessive steroids. We believe our vet when she says that’s the ONLY reason Walter developed it!

    YES she found no other reason at all, some cats are prone to it, but it was decided that stress caused Walters.

    Me (before it was written the cat had been given steroids).

    The number 2 cause of diabetes is steroids

    OP

    Walter was never in danger That is what hypoglycemic attacks can do at the first sign of it we acted and he is living proof that our vet is far from ignorant about diabetes repeated from first post

    But poor Walter had been through so much trauma his little body was protesting and he went off his food.

    Me

    You went to the vet for glucose tests that will never be accurate and based dosing on inaccurate information.

    New comment by me

    Is not the definition of a hypoglycemic attack an overdose of insulin???

    OP

    Walter IS in remission, he did NOT have a hypoglaecimic episode because at the very first sign of his change in attitude we stopped his insulin, gave him honey and got him to our vet exactly as she had instructed us to.

    Why would you give honey and take him to the vet if there was no hypo? Why was he so poorly that he wouldn’t eat after? Would it not have been better for the cat if you definitely knew at that time you gave honey whether or not the cat was having a hypoglycemic attack?

    By far I think what is written directly below is what people have to think about.

    Me

    You went to the vet for glucose tests that will never be accurate and based dosing on inaccurate information.

    Ask your vet if she would give the full dose of insulin if the blood glucose before the shot was 2.5. I am sure the vet would say no. Well how would you know if you didn’t test?

    How did you find out your cat didn’t need insulin? Through the vet right? Did remission happen instantly or were you giving insulin that could kill to a cat that didn’t need it before you went to the vet and found out?

    So my question is was insulin given when it was not needed and did remission happen at the exact same time the cat was taken to the vets?

    Up to you to decide.

    I want to address the questions posed by Ruth at the end of the thread.

    So how come Walter is in remission if our vet is so dangerous and the insulin she prescribes is so horrible?

    Walter is in remission cause the cat overdosed on insulin and shocked the pancreas into working again

    So how is a diabetic cat regularly physically checked over by email? His temperature, his heart, his gums, his general condition?

    Are we talking about diabetes or a physical makeup? If something is wrong and you don’t know what it is, you should always see your vet. As far as diabetes is concerned, going to the vet makes it worse for the cat at least for that day.

    It makes it worse cause as has been written in JAVMA

    Stress raises the blood glucose and since this cat was ‘hunched miserably’ in 1 visit we can pretty much say the cat was stressed like all animals are when visiting the vets

    How is blood taken by email.

    It’s not. Since testing at the vet is inaccurate
    then the tests need to be done at home as you would do with your own child to be checked for the continuing health of his internal organs.

    Go to the vet for that if it is relevant and also sent off to a specialist lab for detailed fructose tests?

    These tests should only be used to confirm or deny diabetes.
    These tests give an average bg over a 2-3 week period and the results can be misleading.

    If the numbers fluctuate everyday say between 2.5 and 18, the results of the fruc can show a healthy cat when that isn’t even close to true.

    Cindy Dr Pierson

    She knows me and Dr. Pierson wrote her diabetes article after coming to the board I use to work on to learn about diabetes. This also answers another of your questions as she mentions the board on her site. Email her She knows me as Ken and Sneakers.

    I left the board about 8 years ago as politics got in the way of helping cat and also many people feel more comfortable on a one to one basis over a public board. I decided that there were people who didn’t know anything was wrong while they were treating their cats and those were the people that needed to be reached out to

    But where is some of the evidence?

    As the spreadsheets that I use to work with people can be edited by anyone, I cannot post them in a public forum. If you are really interested though, email me and I will send you a copy of 10 spreadsheets of cats who have diabetes. Ask me questions about them and then I will send you another 10 and you can ask questions about them. We can keep doing that until you are satisfied.

    You think I am wrong about everything here? That’s ok but for your own sake prove it. Test your cat so you know what is going on and if it is safe to give insulin.

    Best to everyone

  2. Michael, that kind of advice he is giving is dangerous. Not so much to the informed and educated cat owner, but to a younger or more gullible person that has not had much experience with cats. Someone mentioned Tanya’s site in this thread, but she has basically published all her advice and findings on line with references and sources. She has even put it into book form. There is a huge difference in the approach. She is not telling anyone not to go to a vet’s appointment.
    This is the problem with Ken and his advice. He wants you to completely take the vet out of the equation and only listen to him because he has all the answers.

  3. What’s scary about this is if someone would read Ken’s first response to this article and take his advice because he is saying if your very ill cat is sick, do not go to a vet appointment, email him, and he will get your cat healed without ever seeing the cat, the cat’s environment, and/or meeting the cat’s owners in person. And then to proclaim that he doubts very much stress was a cause of the diabetes because the number one cause is dry food, unaware that Walter is not eating dry food. I believe Dr Pierson for years and years has been proclaiming the dry food for many illnesses caused in the cat and rightly so. So that was not a news flash or a conclusion that Ken came up with while he has diagnosed thousands according to him.
    Surely there is a paper written up for basic care of the cat when first being contacted by someone that is requesting help. Is there a link to that or is that information only given by email? Do you have a website? Can you direct us to the forum board where you give advice to owners of diabetic cats? Have you written a paper that we can read on diabetes in the cat? How is anyone suppose to take you serious when you make such bold statements that you are an expert and all veterinarians are pretty much morons? I go to a clinic in Houston, Tx where there are 4 board certified feline specialists. They wouldn’t make the claims that you are making and call themselves experts on diabetes and believe me, they are very knowledgeable in the latest medications and care of the cat.
    Ken, it’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and call yourself an expert and that you have saved thousands of cats, but where is some of the evidence?

  4. I have had to return to PoC ONE LAST TIME because I will not have the possible death of someone’s diabetic cat on my conscience by saying nothing, so here goes….

    Some quotes from MICHAEL
    The information provided by Ken is potentially useful.
    I think Ken’s comment was useful and I welcome his input. I hope he is not upset.
    All you had to do was to ignore it if you didn’t like it.

    Some quotes from Ken
    Here is the really bad news. By far most vets are not up to date with the correct treatment of this disease and some can be dangerous in their advice. Unfortunately this vet that has worked with your cat is a classic example of the wrong way to do this.
    You don’t want to go to these appointments. Get in touch with me at justken@rocketmail.com, I will tell you what you should buy and teach you how to test and aside from being more accurate it will probably be cheaper then the vet appointment.
    I doubt that your cat got diabetes from stress.
    Caninsulin is a horrible insulin for cats.
    ‘Unfortunately this vet that has worked with your cat is a classic example of the wrong way to do this’

    So how come Walter is in remission if our vet is so dangerous and the insulin she prescribes is so horrible ??????????

    Worst of all of this is:
    YOU DON’T WANT TO GO TO THESE APPOINTMENTS.
    So how is a diabetic cat regularly physically checked over by email? His temperature, his heart, his gums, his general condition?
    How is blood taken by email, to be checked for the continuing health of his internal organs and also sent off to a specialist lab for detailed fructose tests?

    MICHAEL
    All you had to do was to ignore it if you didn’t like it

    How could anyone ignore the fact that missing vet appointments is the last thing you should do if you have a diabetic cat.
    I hope no one’s cat dies because of bad ‘advice’ not to attend veterinary appointments

    Enough said!

    Thank you to the loyal people who have commented supportively here, along with the emails and PMs I am very touched by it and by your sadness that I will not be around PoC any more.

    .

  5. A good news on facebook was WALTER’s cure and today I visited PoC for Gabriel, if there was any video update but all above discussion made me 🙁

    • Me too Ahsan 🙁 I feel for Ruth and Babz Maybe Ken meant well but just too agressive and negative about the vet Sara that after all got Walter into Remission!!!

      No one can be an expert on diabetes because it isn’t an exact science and never will be because there are too many variables.

      • I agree that Ken was a bit heavy-handed but…the reaction was also heavy-handed. It did not spoil the article in my view. The article is useful and educational. People sharing thoughts on the internet in articles and comments have to expect and accept the odd comment which they find difficult. It happens all the time. There are far worse comments than Ken’s. He was trying to help. It was the style. This has been blown up out of all proportion; a classic mountain out of a mole hill. Very disappointing.

  6. This is Ruth aka Kattaddorra saying goodbye to PoC, I will not be visiting again, so no point in replying to any of my comments, nor emailing me.
    I know who my friends are and I value them greatly and that’s the only thing to thank PoC for, the ones who I met here.

    • I hate to say it but you created a problem that was not there through provocative comments. It was in your hands to keep things calm. You choose not to. Disappointing.

      • I am sorry for the trouble I caused you and the board and I do appreciate you allowing me to post and for your support in realizing that my intentions were not to cause trouble or problems or bad feelings for anyone but to help and educate people.

        I believe that everyone on this board including my detractors absolutely love their animals and would do anything in their power to make sure that their animals are safe happy and thriving. It would be a shame for people who care, who have valuable information and friends, who fight against declawing,who fight for a cat’s health and well being to leave this board cause of me or the moderators decision to allow these posts. If a public place is to be fair, different opinions on things whether liked or hated need to be allowed to be posted if no rules have been broken.
        Since I am not a regular poster on this board and would only be back to answer questions about feline diabetes, I hope the people threatening to leave will reconsider their decision as even an uplifting story about something can help someone else with their cats and can save lives
        Best to everyone

      • Michael I’m sorry but how would you feel if Gabriel had been sick then with your diligence and care along with your vets expertise you had turned him around back to full health only to write an article about for someone to make arrogant, accusing, I know it all statements? I can totally understand how Ruth feels I would feel the same myself to have everything I’d done bought down to some insignificant level by someone who isn’t even qualified to make such statements!!

        If he had been a bit more humble and made it clear from the start that he wasn’t qualified and offered a bit of praise for their success with Walter then going on to state that what he was offering was just advice and nothing more but no his initial comment was full on and negative!! I really feel that the way his initial comment was written anyone in Ruth and Babzposition would have done the same me included! I think it was Ken that was provocative because he was so full of himself and way too arrogant!!
        Sorry I know you asked me to leave it and now I will but sometimes things just have to be said.
        I too am sorry if I’ve offended anyone but I just had to say how I feel

  7. I just got off the phone with my veterinarian! I asked if stress can bring on Diabetes and she assured me that it certainly can. Just thought I would leave that update.

    I don’t know what I would do without my vet. She is amazing! I feel totally blessed.

    • Thank you Jo, for all we were certain that our vet was right it’s good to have a ‘second opinion’ from a qualified person rather than a self made ‘expert’ and who I know from what you’ve told me about the way she treats your cats, is a wonderful cat vet. She’s an American version of ‘our Sarah’ and isn’t it nice to have a vet you can trust and who knows your cats.
      At the end of the day Walter is in remission and it’s thanks to her and to us for caring for him, the cost no object, like you, our cats come first, last and in the middle.

  8. Nice one!!!
    With one reply? Is that your credentials? Excuse me, I’m not laughing, really I’m not, I’m coughing honestly.
    Good Segway as this was about me NOT CHARGING people as you were trying to find a way to knock what I was doing. Hope your cough gets better.
    I didn’t know the amount of replies had to do with anything or means anything for that matter. What matters is the quality of what you say.
    As far as ‘replies’ go. let me tell you that I get about 3 emails a week because of posts like those and I have helped hundreds of cats so my ‘replies’ come in the form of emails

  9. I’m so pleased poor Walter is feeling himself again. Poor boy. Great news he is ok so far. Thank you for taking the time to tell us about all your experiences with this. I would feel the same about doing anything to help my kitty get well again and get the best possible care available too. I’m going to rethink getting insurance despite TigerLily being over 10 and trawl through all the online policies.

    • Thank you Suzy, Yes Walter is feeling very good and he will be seeing Sarah on Monday for his check up, she is one wonderful cat vet.
      Looking back we’d have done better having insurance rather than putting money aside monthly for vets fees, but we are lucky, we’ve had 41 years of very healthy cats and didn’t expect this to happen. But it did and we have paid for the best treatment money can buy and it was worth every penny.
      I hope you manage to get TigerLily insured, it could be difficult for a 10 year old cat.

    • Read the small print of the insurance policies very closely.

      After a certain age the premiums rise quite dramatically. Even with “lifetime” cover for chronic conditions like diabetes and kidney disease, they still charge an excess fee each year for that condition. They also start making you pay an increasing percentage of the vet’s bill yourself.

      Most importantly, make sure they pay the vet bills direct. The whole point of having insurance is to cover large, unexpected bills. So what’s the point if you have to pay the vet first and then claim it back afterwards?

  10. Yahoo answers!!! Where so many ‘expert’ youngsters hang out, that would be right!
    Play it forward? I don’t understand that.

    • Ken does not charge for his advice. Pay it forward simply means if someone does you a good deed, do the same for same for someone else.

  11. Very disappointed at how this article has been allowed to be hijacked, and that details of our cat’s medical condition and our personal lives have been used as a soapbox for someone to get his own ideas in print. Like Ruth I wish this article had not been written or posted. I get the impression from his first comment that this expert charges for sharing his knowledge. I would far rather put my trust, and money, into our own chosen vet who has the necessary qualifications to give advice on the medical treatment of animals.

    • So now that you know that I DO NOT CHARGE as the proof is out there as I linked a post from 2 years ago and can go back much further
      https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130830150101AAWGMen

      and I have
      NO WEBSITE to promote myself nor is there any financial gain for me whatsoever EXCEPT the gain that comes from being useful and helping people.
      How will you attack now?
      For me that gain that I mention above — I realize is an important part of my life I admit. At least I did something good and useful with my time so I am not a total waste
      of air. People need help. I offered it. I also offered what I thought was useful information that could save cat’s lives. You take it as a personal affront, so be it
      Much more important to get information out there then what is thought of me.
      Not apologizing any more

      • Yahoo Answers? With one reply? Is that your credentials? Excuse me, I’m not laughing, really I’m not, I’m coughing honestly.

        Sharing for the enlightenment of anyone who might wish to use your services:
        Do you have a diabetic cat?
        Do you know about home testing your cat and how to do it? How important it is?
        Do you know that tests at the vets can be off hundreds of points? This could lead to wrong advice. How can you possibly treat this correctly without information?
        Do you know about feeding the proper diet which is not what the vet sells? Do you know diet may have been the reason your cat got diabetes in the first place?
        Do you know if you do this right that it is possible for a cat to go into remission and become diet controlled? I work with from all over the world helping them learn how to treat their diabetic cats. I can help if you need it. I am very good at what I do no charge pay it forward Follow 1 answer

        Best Answer: You make me angry! Don’t come on here with that “play it forward” business, and don’t try to make yourself out to be some kind of expert about diabetes in cats, and know more about it than a good vet would!

        I’ve had a diabetic cat for years. When she was first diagnosed, the vet kept her for 4 days, constantly running blood sugar levels throughout the day, every day, because blood sugar levels can give a normal reading in the morning perhaps, and then go totally off the chart by afternoon. It had to be determined at what level of insulin to start her off on.

        I had to give that cat an insulin shot daily, and check her blood levels twice a day. Checking her blood levels involved picking the pad of her paw (just like you prick a diabetic human’s finger). After many months, we were able to graduate her down to where her diabetes could be controlled with tablets (same thing as Glucophage). Today, she is insulin-free; but she is not “cured” of diabetes and never will be. No more than a human is “cured” of diabetes. I still have to check her blood sugar levels daily, to make sure they are holding where they should be.

        No one “knows” for sure what causes diabetes, and neither do you. It could be weight; it could be diet; it could be age; or it could be that a cat was simply born predisposed to develop diabetes — just like a human can be. A person could try a “holistic” method of treating diabetes — if they want their cat to die! Diabetes in cats must be treated and managed with the same attention to detail that it is in humans!
        Source(s): operator of cat rescue/sanctuary

        menykats · 2 years ago

        Oh I beg your pardon, two answers, the second one says “Nope ”
        ava · 2 years ago

  12. Michael,

    Of course there are veterinarians who ain’t worth the price of their license and should be avoided. I have heard of veterinarians who prescribe DRY FOOD for cats with Pancreatitis and kidney disease- those very poor quality Rx diets that aint worth beans. Of course, when we hear about vets of that ilk it is wise to SUGGEST that perhaps they need to seek a second opinion- and we totally agree about those arrogant, ignorant, money hungry vets who suggest declawing. One needs to run a million miles an hour away from their advice. And yes, we are here to educate people and open their eyes and start learning about proper and appropriate feline care.

    I did say that the opinions I wrote about giving medical advice which is presented as if the advice was written in stone- and I clearly said these were my opinions. Sharing our experiences and what has worked for OUR cats can be helpful with the proviso that checking with a competent feline-savvy vet before changing any treatments we are giving them. My vet is open to discussion about any treatment suggestions she may offer. For example she recommended a low fat diet for Sir Hubble- my 14 year-old Oriental Shorthair neuter. After learning that this is not necessarily the optimum diet for CATS (while it is for dogs) we talked about it and he is no longer on a low fat diet. The world of feline nutrition changes and grows with more accurate info coming down the pike all the time. But still some feline-only practitioners still prescribe low fat diets for cats, when cats do need fats in their diet- and low fat is necessary for canines.

    There is a huge difference, in my opinion, between sharing our experiences and giving outright medical advice, Michael- even if we were veterinarians. Good support groups always share their experiences and never offer medical advice- always send people to talk to their vets. And yes, sometime we do know more about cats than SOME vets. Many vets still think of cats as little dogs. But if I run into a practitioner that gives me this feeling I am out the door in a heartbeat.

  13. Well that’s it, my article has been taken over, our caretaking insulted, our vet degraded, the insulin our vets used called horrible, all by someone who admits to not having any veterinary qualifications at all.
    Well thanks very much Mr ‘Expert’ but at the end of the day Walter IS in remission, he did NOT have a hypoglaecimic episode because at the very first sign of his change in attitude we stopped his insulin, gave him honey and got him to our vet exactly as she had instructed us to.
    The proof is here large as life, eating and enjoying his life, thank God we followed our vet’s advice and not some ones on the internet as we would probably be sitting here crying right now over the loss of our cat.
    Self made experts are a danger to cats!

    • I just don’t have the blind faith that what I am being told by a pro is always right
      Yes the thread is what is important here. Sorry I hijacked it
      What you see as proof that is ‘large as life’ I see it as proof of everything I have said. I will leave the no hypo gave karo comment alone cause my point has already been made and hopefully some cats will benefit from it.

      I know that you are a loving caring person who would do anything for your animals, I hope you realize that I am too.

    • Ruth, you created this problem by making provocative comments. Dee has done the same. You could have ignored Ken’s comment if you wanted to.

      • Good grief!
        I don’t consider my inquiries about what it means and what it may reqiuire to become a feline expert to be provocative, inflammatory, or anything like that.
        I really wanted to know if course studies existed somewhere and if it’s a viable profession that people can pursue.

  14. I am sorry you have taken this as an attack on you and that I have ruined anything for you. All across the world, cats are dying or suffering from this disease when they could all be thriving and this information needs to get out there as things most change

    how to spot hypoglaecemia immediately? We have watched Walter closely and at the first sign of it we acted
    So your cat had a hypoglycemic episode?

    Caninsulin is a horrible insulin for cats where the success rate of just regulation is less then 20%. My definition of regulation is all numbers below the renal threshold which is around 11 1/2 or so. I have much experience with people working with it and have had cats go into remission with it but it doesn’t work for the vast majority of cats. I am very happy it worked for yours

    I’m glad that in your second comment you acknowledged that your ideas are more suited to your country of residence, we here in England follow our vet’s advice and as cannot be disputed we get results
    With the cascade law this advice is more important to your country then anywhere else in the world. Why should an insulin that has 4 or 5 times the success rate of the ones allowed there not be allowed to be used”
    We here follow our vets advice also and that is the problem and what leads to our ignorance. Following my expert vets advice is the actual reason why I have been doing this for over 10 years trying to educate people about not being blind.
    I do not condone nor is an inordinate amount of testing needed to control diabetes. Testing at home aside from being accurate is far far more comfortable and less stressful for a cat the going to a vets and having blood taken from a leg or neck. I know of worked with and have left the message board you are referring to.

    I want to reply to this one

    I have never heard of a feline diabetes expert.
    Where is the education gotten and what are your credentials?
    My education is not in medicine and has no bearing on the subject

    Are you licensed by a State Board?
    No
    Can you, legally, open your own private practice?
    No

    Are there any other feline expertise areas that people can pursue? Like renal, cardiac, etc.
    I am sure there are but don’t understand the question
    Very curious.
    Now how can an ignorant unprofessional amateur claim that he has more expertise treating this disease then 10 vets combined?
    CauseI have seen numbers from over a thousand cats on a daily basis from the time I started back in 2003 till now. I have more experience and access to more information then vets can get doing it there way that’s how
    How did I get involved and why do I do this?
    I have always loved animals and would always do anything in my power to help and care for my animals. I was ignorant. I never imagined that unhealthy food would be sold/ I never imagined that a vet, a professional, that was so sure of herself very successful treating this according to her could be so dam ignorant and have me play Russian roulette with my cat’s life.
    I had 2 cats and travelled a lot at the time. Was just over a relationship so was living by myself. I was going away for a week and left enough dry food down for both my cats as I have done in the past.
    When I came back this time both my cats came to greet me but when I picked up Sneakers, if felt like she weighed half of what she should.
    Fortunately there was a 24 hour emergency and we went right away as I was scared.
    The vet told me she was diabetic and DKA which is very serious and he wasn’t sure she would make it. I left her there for treatment and I was shocked and petrified. Who heard of cats getting diabetes? If she made it, what kind of life would it be for her? is there really quality of life getting injections everyday? What do I do?
    I starting researching online and found some people who were going through or who have went through the same thing.
    On the second day I was told she was stable and on the 3rd day I was told the ketones were gone and that she should be moved to my regular vet
    to learn about treatment. When I got there, she told me the cat needed to stay at the office to be regulated. I left her and visited her there.
    She was looking better and better and on the 3rd day She told me that Sneakers can go home and that I should give her 3 units of insulin 2x a day 12 hours apart. We did a shot at the office and it went smoothly and I didn’t think it hurt her so I was optimistic. Went I got home, I was ecstatic and wrote the people I was in contact with about her coming home and my instruction. I was told the insulin I was using was dangerous. I was told I was starting off on way too much insulin, I was told to test my cat. It’s bad enough that I have to stick my cat with needles for insulin shots everyday and these people wanted me to poke holes in my cat’s ears? I called the vet and she told me she knows what she is doing, has had a lot of success doping it and that if I tested I would ruin my cat’s ear causing more problems. The people scared me the vet now scared me. I didn’t test and made a compromise. I gave 2 units 2x a day instead of the 3 the vet said or the 1 unit the people said
    2 days after getting her home at midnight I start looking for Sneakers to go to bed and find her having a seizure. I put karo on her gums and even up her but and she is barely responding. I pick her up and drive at exorbitant speeds to get to the hospital while at the same time giving mouth to mouth but I was losing her. When I got there she was limp.I thought she was dead but somehow she made it. They told me that her bg when they got her was .3 (5 US) and they were surprised that she made it but she did. I/she was fortunate. She did lose something from that hypo (in her mind) but was not crippled and was still a loving outgoing friendly cat. I cannot put a finger on what she lost but after the hypo there were times that she was staring into space like her mind was blank and it was not a normal type thing.
    I joined a feline diabetes group and worked helping on the board for years. In those years I got to see hundreds upon hundreds of cats using all the different insulin’s and seeing on a day to day basis how the cats
    reacted to the different insulin’s different doses and different foods
    Math is my subject and there are patterns in these numbers enabling people to be able to make educated decisions on what is right for the cat. I left the board about 7 years ago as too many tests and monitoring that wasn’t needed was being demanded, talk had to be done in a certain way so as not to offend any vets. Politics got in the way of helping cats so I struck out on my own looking for message boards and such trying to help people, paying it forward as I know people trust their vets and I know even to this day that many people and cats are going through the same thing unnecessarily.
    On my own I have worked with hundreds of cats and their owners. Since the slow acting insulin’s came available with the people I have worked with I have over an 80% success rate and by that I mean that 80%+ of cats that I have worked with are thriving. Even the cats still getting shots, a vet would not even realize that the cat has diabetes and that is what I mean by thriving.
    Again, I am very blunt, straight to the point and when I do this, I try to represent the cat’s needs and interests first then the caregivers
    I am sorry truly sorry for an offenses I may cause. I don’t mean to scare people, rain on people’s parades or hurt anyone. That said, I will not change my ways as the cat has no voice and it is not easy to get people to listen to a nobody layman like myself over the advice of a professional. Plenty has changed as at the same time not much has changed in treatment and people need to know what they are doing and what is going on so they can protect their cats and treat this properly.
    Best to everyone

      • The price is doing what your cat needs. I don’t charge anything. If you can do it
        then I would ask you to pay it forward to another stranger

    • OMG I missed this bit until someone pointed it out to me…….
      ‘I will tell you what you should buy and teach you how to test and aside from being more accurate it will probably be cheaper then the vet appointment’
      So it’s a sales pitch is it????????? Do you do it for money? If so, is that legal?

      • No
        I do not do it for money. Would you like a reference from 10? 20? 100 people?
        Here is one thing I put out on yahoo answers. I know you don’t believe anything I say so here is proof. If you look, it was dated 2 years ago and you will see at the bottom I write I DO NOT CHARGE.
        https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130830150101AAWGMen

        I get the same hostile responses like you are giving me all the time but I also get to help people and help cats and I am proud

        Hi Ken

        This is Brad. I’m the one that originally found your info and contacted you. Marcia has done virtually all the correspondence since.

        At the time we started looking for help we thought that our cat would be gone within weeks, maybe days. We knew our vet did not have us on a good path and we were almost out of hope. The veterinary practice we go to has one relatively young and approachable vet and one older, much less compassionate one. He is a dog person if that makes a difference. Unfortunately we drew the older one for our diabetic cat. He sent us home with a rigid treatment plan and no testing on our part that would definitely have killed our cat. Because I was diabetic immediately following my kidney transplant we knew that treatment without testing was insanity. The vet wanted to do all the testing at his practice so he could charge for it. He also insisted on a diet that they sell that our cat hated so much that he might have starved. During our search through forums for an alternate diet we were lucky enough to find you.

        The long and short is that we may not be able to pass your amazing gift along to our vet unless we get a chance in private with the younger one. We will try.

        In the meantime you saved our cat and several hundred dollars in vet bills. I would feel much better about all the time you spent with us if you let us send $400 or $500 in appreciation for all you’ve done for us and kitty. I know what you did is worth more.
        I REFUSED THE MONEY. If anyone wants the persons email addy they are welcome

  15. First let me begin by saying that I wish that all cat owners would take as great care of their cats and Ruth and Babz. They are extraordinary cat-caretakers, and do extraordinary work to help get declawing banned in the USA and Canada.

    I also think it very important to be very careful when giving advice for cats with any medical conditions. Even if it is a veterinarian posting a comment, without all the medical records and examining the cat it would be unethical to give medical advice. My very cat savvy veterinarian gets very upset with folks that go to the internet to get advice, although there are veterinarians (perhaps) who even request fees for diagnosis and treatment plans online.

    I am a member of a support group for people with cats with pancreatitis. We are strongly cautioned not to give advice, but we can share what has worked with our cats which is accompanied by a disclaimer to check with our veterinarian FIRST before running off to a website to purchase medications.

    Back to Walter. Presently I am waiting to speak with my vet about Diabetic remissions. But I did some extensive research this morning and found two interesting articles that were prefaced with the statement that “Stresses of all kinds often cause cats to have high blood sugar levels.” and “Stress-induced hyperglycemia may cause serum glucose elevations of up.” One was written by a veterinarian. The links to the article are:

    http://www.2ndchance.info/diabetescat.htm

    http://www.felinediabetes.com/diabetes-in-cats.htm

    I just needed to stress how important it is (at least to me) not to give medical advice- but to only share about our experiences and what has worked for our cats- of course always checking with our vet- or even getting second or more opinions if we are not satisfied with the information or treatment our cats are getting. Attacking what someone is doing for their cats is very unfair-and not helpful to anyone in my opinion.

    • Jo, what is the difference between cat lovers discussing their own first hand experiences in home treatments or discussing what vets are good at or not and providing medical advice? I believe we can discuss these topics and tell other people what we do, which is indirectly a form of medical advice.

      I think we can spell out symptoms and refer to studies etc.. These are helpful. I don’t think can dispense advice unless we are professionals but even professionals screw up and dispense bad advice sometimes (i.e. vets suggesting declawing). Some non-qualified people are better than vets in some areas of cat health care, I would suggest.

      • And some non qualified people who tell others that their advice is better and cheaper than veterinary advice are dangerous!

        • I invited Ken to post a comment as I know that he has helped many people care for their diabetic cats. I personally believe that his information and experience are of interest and worth sharing. I didn’t know that in the UK vets can only prescribe one brand of insulin for cats. Did anyone else?

          Ruth, no-one doubts that yourself and Babz put your cats first in every respect and no expense is spared in giving them the best food and vet treatment. You also have your first hand experience as a professional vet nurse to rely on, but there are a lot of people who don’t. This also makes you better qualified than most of us to judge how good a vet is.

          Please bear in mind that too many vets are still heavily promoting dry food for their patients. Not everyone is aware how inappropriate that diet is for cats, because they trust their vet’s advice. People get their cats declawed on the recommendation of a vet, but you don’t need any professional qualifications to know how wrong that is. Vets worldwide can’t even agree on vaccination protocol. Some recommend annually, whilst others suggest every 3 years is better.

          Yes some vets are brilliant and keep themselves educated on the latest developments, but many do not. The same is true of doctors. That Newcastle University research on type 2 diabetes had this to say and I think the same applies to the veterinary profession;

          “It is important that people with diabetes discuss their management with their own doctor. It will take years for this new knowledge to become incorporated into textbooks and guidelines, so your doctor may be wary of information from the internet.”

          I like hearing the different opinions on PoC. I don’t always agree with them, but more often than not, I learn something new or interesting.

          • Well said Michele. I have learnt from you. And I totally agree with all you write in your comment. We should be free to discuss medical information. It need not be advice in the classic sense but passing on experiences which can help others. A well informed cat caretaker is a better client for a vet than one who is ignorant. They are able to make better judgments when assessing a vet’s advice and recommendations. Vets need to be checked sometimes because they are a business.

            I think Ken’s comment was useful and I welcome his input. I hope he is not upset.

            • Thanks Michael. I truly believe that sharing information and experiences can help. Especially when people are caring for cats with chronic illnesses or constant pain from arthritis, declawing etc.

              When Holly was diagnosed with CKD I found Tanya’s Feline CRF web site really helpful. It was good to read the various international approaches to treating the condition. The UK is lacking in many treatment options which are routinely available in other countries. It would be rather arrogant to assume that is because we’re using the best of everything.

              • I think the internet has been very educational to decent cat caretakers. There is a lot more awareness about cat food and cat behaviour than there used to be. I also believe that sometimes vets can learn from good cat owners. This is common sense.

            • Michael, do you hope I am not upset by having my article sabotaged by this self made ‘expert’ and ourselves, our vet and the insulin she used insulted?
              No of course you don’t because you don’t value 7 years loyalty to PoC and the fact that Babz and I brought many more visitors along by promoting PoC articles and by our educational anti declaw articles and my posters.
              Not paid promoters either, who only promote their own articles, just cat loving people who liked to share their own cat stories, the latest being Walter’s success story because of our wonderful vet.
              It seems you would rather new people who come along were not upset and as it’s the second time you have done this, it’s the last this time!
              I won’t be around any more to support you by educating about important cat related topics or to defend you, which you have thanked me for in the past. I wish I hadn’t written this article, if you don’t remove it then it’s there for all to see, an uplifting story ruined by some person previously unknown to you but who you welcomed to destroy ours and our vets credentials.
              Babz and I will be joining the once loyal visitors you have already lost because of your attitude to them.
              I’m just sorry I agreed to write this, I should have listened to the those who advised me not to because they feared it would descend into unpleasantness, the only thing missing is Woody, it’s a wonder he hasn’t come along too.

          • Michele I wish you had invited Ken to write his own article on diabetes instead of sabotaging mine. His insults to ourselves and our vets and the type of insulin our vet uses and which got Walter into remission, were uncalled for.
            The proof that our vet was right, is Walter in remission.
            Enough said!

            • There was no intent to sabotage your article. I’m sorry that you interpret it that way.

          • Michelle you invited Ken to post as you know that he has helped many people care for their diabetic cats. If this was an article written by someone asking for help because they were at a loss for what to do then Kens comments would have been appropriate yet Ken commented it seems going full tilt without any relevance at times to Ruths article!! Walter is in remission thanks to Ruth, Babz and their brilliant vet Sara!!!

            This was supposed to be success story, an uplifting one with Ruth sharing experiences to help others and then Ken comes on and says things like ‘Here is the really bad news. By far most vets are not up to date with the correct treatment of this disease and some can be dangerous in their advice. Unfortunately this vet that has worked with your cat is a classic example of the wrong way to do this’ I’m sorry but Ruth and babz are proactive and dilligent; they are intelligent people and I’m sure they really don’t need ‘help’ from a self proclaimed ‘expert’.

            • Leah, I appreciate your input but I think it is best that we let this rest. Michelle S is probably the best informed and best educated visitor to PoC. I don’t want her upset. Thanks.

              • I’m definintely not the best informed, which is why I’m always interested in hearing another viewpoint.

                I’m sorry if others who don’t necessarily feel the same way have taken offence.

      • I don’t think people should give medical advice unless they are qualified. There are too many self proclaimed experts. Along with de-clawing there seems to be an increase in self diagnosis and home treatment and its this I think can be dangerous. To me its simple if you can’t afford to take your cat to the vets to get the correct treatment then should you really get a cat or any other animal for that matter? With regards home testing and not being offered it perhaps it wasn’t offered because the right place to do it accurately is in the vets surgery?

        • People don’t have to take advice on the internet. They have choices. Also when medical advice is non-specific it is not directed at a particular cat. This sort of advice can be useful and can come from anyone almost.

          I agree that pure medical advice can only be given if the person is qualified. However, wise and sensible cat lovers who have decades of experience can and should discuss health issues on the internet and make suggestions which the recipient can ignore or take on board of they wish. The recipient can also consult with their vet on the suggestion. This helps educate. A black and white proclamation that dispensing medical advice on the internet is bad is not the complete answer.

  16. Hi
    If I insulted anyone in my comments I am sorry. I do make some assumptions and they are based on the hundreds of people I have dealt with over the years
    Most people and this includes vets don’t know about dry food, carbohydrates and diabetes. You didn’t mention carbs. you mentioned high protein, low fat. As far as I know all cats need high protein and that has no affect on diabetes and low fat can translate to low carbs but carbohydrates is what affect the glucose numbers and it should be clear
    Not everyone has money so price can be an issue. Cheaper doesn’t necessarily mean worse. DM or MD canned is pretty expensive yet horrible and not needed nor as good as some foods that are available for a cheaper price.
    Let me answer some of the comments here

    I found the comments a little patronising, assuming we were ignorant of the way to treat our cat, assuming our vet “he” (Sarah is a lady) prescribed the wrong insulin, assuming we would take more notice of a diabetic expert who is not a vet than of the person who has brought about remission – whereas the results, healthy remission, speak for themselves.

    They may have been patronizing and if I came off the wrong way then I
    am sorry. I am very direct and blunt with my comments and my sole purpose is to help people help their cats. People need to research and stop trusting that everything said by a professional is gospel
    Remission does not speak for itself. It almost sounded like your cat went into remission through a hypoglycemic episode which happens
    You and your cat got lucky as dosing was only based on guessing.
    You went to the vet for glucose tests that will never be accurate and based dosing on inaccurate information. Fructosamine tests give an average blood glucose for about a 2-3 week period. If the numbers are mixed between very high and very low (which happens using a fast acting insulin) the fructosamine can show normal numbers when a cat is seriously at risk. These tests should only be used to confirm or deny diabetes.
    You didn’t test at home. You weren’t informed of testing at home.
    Ask your vet if she would give the full dose of insulin if the blood glucose before the shot was 2.5. I am sure the vet would say no. Well how would you know if you didn’t test?
    How did you find out your cat didn’t need insulin? Through the vet right? Did remission happen instantly or were you giving insulin that could kill to a cat that didn’t need it before you went to the vet and found out? Please believe that I am not in any way trying to knock you or what you did in any way. We all do the same thing and trust we are getting correct information from a professional. When it comes to diabetes most people are not getting correct information or learning the correct way to treat this disease.
    I would never look to cut corners in any cat’s treatment. Cheaper means just that and nothing more. What I mean is better care then is being given for less money that is being spent
    If anything I am trying to stop people from cutting corners and to get them to do what is necessary be proactive in their cat’s care.
    I will answer some of this other stuff in another post following this one
    Oh and I may be just a stupid American but everything I say here applies to all cats all over.
    I would never have my cats toes amputated and my cats are indoor/outdoor cats FWIW

  17. I was very reluctant to write this article because I knew that an ‘expert’ from a country where many cats are kept lifelong prisoners and where it’s legal for vets to amputate their toe ends for convenience, would come along and air their ‘superior’ knowledge.
    Here in England our cats have quality of life, living as cats were meant to live and are part of the family with the freedom that other family members enjoy.
    Our cats are loved and cared for and are fed the best wet food, yes Felix and Whiskas included, we have researched every brand along with our wonderful vet Sarah who is far from ignorant about diabetes. She has got Walter into remission after only 10 weeks without us poking at his ear for blood and causing him more anxiety and alienating him against us in his own home.
    As Babz said, our cats have NOT been fed dry food and Walter was never
    ‘in danger of being killed, crippled, blinded or lost some of HIS (not ITS) mind’s function because of the vet’s lack of knowledge. That is what hypoglycemic attacks can do’
    Do you think we don’t know how to spot hypoglaecemia immediately? We have watched Walter closely and at the first sign of it we acted and he is living proof that our vet is far from ignorant about diabetes, in fact all the vets in our practice have been trained in the care of diabetic animals and know that stress CAN BE a cause! Caninsulin is the especially formulated latest insulin. I think the UK is far ahead of the USA in the veterinary field.
    We read deeply on the internet and I came across an American message board where the members had a good laugh about ‘pricking’ their cats ears constantly and ‘forgetting’ to keep the insulin refrigerated ..’oh yes they agreed, we have all done that’
    Well we have NOT! Nor have we laughed at a cat’s distress. One even wrote about her cat in an e collar after some surgery bumping into walls in her haste to escape yet another ear ‘prick’
    Quality of life is important to cats!
    Well it’s up to everyone to believe what they want to believe and as I said, against my better judgement I wrote this to help others. Yes we are lucky but not that Walter survived, there was no doubt that he would. We are lucky that we have a very knowledgeable ENGLISH vet who has looked after Walter so well that she got him into remission very quickly.
    The money doesn’t matter at all, I wasn’t complaining about the expense, just informing others that a diagnosis of diabetes does mean a lot of expense if the cat is to have the best treatment available.
    Walter is one happy cat, as is Jozef too, thanks to our care and our excellent vets care.

  18. Hi Ken, I’m sure my sister Ruth the author of this article will respond to your comments but right now I want to let you know immediately that our cats have never been fed a dry food diet, nor have we ever scrimped on the quality of wet cat food we have fed any our cats over the last 41 years we have had the pleasure of sharing our lives with them, their health and well being is paramount and any cost cutting that happens in our household affects the humans, not the felines. I’m glad that in your second comment you acknowledged that your ideas are more suited to your country of residence, we here in England follow our vet’s advice and as cannot be disputed we get results. Our cat has gone into remission after 10 weeks of loving, diligent care by our vet and by ourselves, as kind as your advice and observations are obviously meant they are not relevant to our situation, the USA treats cats in a different, far more aggressive way than we do, from what I have read US diabetic cats become nothing but a medical subject with testing 6-12 hourly used to determine varying insulin doses. Based on your comments you think we are ignorant of the correct way to treat a diabetic cat, well I’m happy to repeat that we have a happy and healthy cat who is in remission and who is being fed the best wet food money can buy while enjoying a cat’s life of outdoor freedom for pleasure and hunting and indoor comfort and care, as he chooses. Yes maybe success makes us lucky, we do feel extremely lucky to still have him and our other cat Jozef, but it also makes us damn good cat carers in my opinion.

  19. I have to post again after rereading the email sent to me made me realize that you are in the UK. Any non grain canned or pouched food is ok to feed. Felix or Whiskas in jelly are alsofine to feed. I have worked with people there but there is a special problem that is unique to the UK.

    You have something called a cascade law that basically prevents you initially from getting what is best for your cat. Basically the law states that only medicines approved for animals may be prescribed and only when those options are used and proof can be shown that these don’t work can you prescribe a medicine that is made for humans.

    As far as I know (I may not be up to date on this) none of the insulin’s allowed to be prescribed are great for cats. Cats need a slow acting insulin as they absorb it twice as fast as humans. The insulin’s that I have such a high success rate with hundreds of cats using it are Lantus and Levimir which are not approved in the UK for animals yet even though there is years of history elsewhere. I have had 1 person who was able to get it after showing the insulin prescribed didn’t work and signing a wavier but even with proof what they are doing isn’t working, it is hard to convince a vet to prescribe something he knows nothing about.

    I do believe though that a determined person can find a way to get what the cat needs.

    Ken

  20. Hi,

    A very kind person directed me to this board cause I post somewhere else about helping people whose cats have feline diabetes. I am not a vet but I am a feline diabetes expert and work with many people from all over helping them with their diabetic cats. I am going to respond to some of what you wrote while also talking generally to help others who may have a cat that has diabetes.

    There is some really great news and really bad news with this disease. This is not a death sentence, no life span needs to be lost and any cat can thrive again if the caregiver is proactive in treatment.

    Here is the really bad news. By far most vets are not up to date with the correct treatment of this disease and some can be dangerous in their advice. Unfortunately this vet that has worked with your cat is a classic example of the wrong way to do this.

    Even if a vet knew the correct way to do this, they cannot do this without a proactive owner. As stress and other factors can raise the blood glucose hundreds of points (10-20 for Canadian, European) they cannot get the correct information to be able to tell a person how much insulin to give.

    Home testing is the only way to know if it is safe to give insulin as well as giving you the information to treat this disease correctly. It’s not hard to do as I have had people from 15 to 80. There are even ways to do it with cats who may be related to Cujp the dog. Let me address some of what you wrote.

    You don’t want to go to these appointments. Get in touch with me at justken@rocketmail.com, I will tell you what you should buy and teach you how to test and aside from being more accurate it will probably be cheaper then the vet appointment anyone else with a diabetic cat who wishes to write is welcome to and if you are willing to be proactive and do what the cat needs I would be willing to work with you till not needed anymore. I don’t ask for anything except you taking care of your cat. (Moderators, I choose for my email to be in this post and it is ok)

    I doubt that your cat got diabetes from stress. The number 1 cause of diabetes in cats is DRY FOOD!!! because of the carb content in dry foods for your obligate carnivore. The number 2 cause of diabetes is steroids.

    There is nothing prescription or even good about dm or md. When that dry food crap was made it was the lowest carb content dry and their canned food hold no value over commercially available canned food and is of the lowest quality. For budget households that can’t afford a non grain cat food their are many flavors of fancy feast that can be given which is middle grade or even friskies, 9 lives some are ok. gravy and sauce foods, stuff like pounce treats and of course kitty crack (dry food) are out. I would also bet that he prescribed the wrong insulin for cats but that is for another time.

    You are very lucky. Your cat could have been killed, crippled, blinded or lost some of it’s minds function because of the vet’s lack of knowledge. That is what hypoglycemic attacks can do. The scary thing is that you are no where close to being alone.

    Here is the thing. Using the right protocol, the right insulin and being proactive in treatment, a tight regulation rate where a cat can thrive is around 90% and a remission rate can be around 80% where the cats can become diet controlled. I have had people who have had cats treated (wrongly)for 7 years before finding me whose cats went into remission so there is always hope

    Hope you contact me. Good luck all

    • Thanks a lot, Ken, for your extensive advice. I don’t know you but you seem to know what you are talking about.

      I agree with what you write regarding dry cat food and prescription diets. I have pages on these topics. I also have a page on home glucose monitoring:

      https://pictures-of-cats.org/diabetic-cat-food.html

      https://pictures-of-cats.org/prescription-diets-for-cats-are-a-scam.html

      https://pictures-of-cats.org/monitoring-blood-glucose-levels-in-cats.html

      Dry cat food is the biggest scam after prescription diets. I don’t believe that Walter was given dry cat food. Ruth is very knowledgeable and is aware of the problems with dry cat food. Also I am not sure he ever received steroid treatment.

      • Maybe Ken’s advice is good, but it is not relevant to us as our cats have never been fed a dry food diet, we make it our business to know what our cats should be eating, nor has Walter had excessive steroids. I found the comments a little patronising, assuming we were ignorant of the way to treat our cat, assuming our vet “he” (Sarah is a lady) prescribed the wrong insulin, assuming we would take more notice of a diabetic expert who is not a vet than of the person who has brought about remission – whereas the results, healthy remission, speak for themselves.

      • The cause is no mystery, it was anxiety which you agreed on yesterday and even asked me to write an article about stress causing it. We believe our vet when she says that’s the ONLY reason Walter developed it!
        I’m afraid some people think they know more than vets!
        I object strongly to us and our vet being called ignorant and putting Walter’s life in danger by some ‘expert’ in another country and told to contact him for ‘advice’ when the proof of what we did was right for Walter and he is here in remission to prove it.

        • I made a mistake in saying the cause is a mystery. I apologise. I have deleted that sentence.

          Ruth, this guy has a point of view. That is all. And he is trying to help. I think you could acknowledge that. You did very well in getting Walter right and back to health. Of course you did.

          When you write articles you should be prepared for comments that you might disagree with. But I can’t censor comments that might be of use to others. The information provided by Ken is potentially useful.

          • It’s OK making comments and I’ve been attacked before on PoC, but it’s not OK to degrade ours and our vet’s treatment of Walter which resulted in his remission.
            ‘You don’t want to go to these appointments. Get in touch with me at justken@rocketmail.com, I will tell you what you should buy and teach you how to test and aside from being more accurate it will probably be cheaper then the vet appointment ‘
            Who is he? Do you know him? He could be Woody in disguise!!!! An American telling us what to buy here in the UK to be more accurate and CHEAPER, is an insult! We would never cut corners with our cats treatment. ‘You don’t want to go to these appointments’……that to me is dangerous talk, diabetic cats need regular appointments with their vets, I’m worried that someone comes along who thinks ‘OK I don’t need a vet I’ve got this expert to tell me what to do’….. this is what I’m objecting too, as well as insulting us in that we didn’t know about hypoglaecemia.
            My uplifting article is ruined and I should have stuck to my resolve not to write any more articles and just stayed away like so many others of the old happy supportive ‘PoC family’ are doing.

            • You are massively overreacting. Really you are. You have a bee in your bonnet and it comes out all over your comments. He is not Woody in disguise. How you can say your uplifting article is ruined is beyond me. Just because of one comment from a person who wants to help. All you had to do was to ignore it if you didn’t like it.

          • If you ask me you should have deleted the whole article as it’s descended into a farce and is more about this expert’s sales pitch than our cat’s medical condition now.

          • YES she found no other reason at all, some cats are prone to it, but it was decided that stress caused Walters.
            I wonder how many declawed cats in the USA develop diabetes? A lifetime of stress due to having their toe ends amputated may be a factor worth looking in to.

    • Hi Ken.
      I have never heard of a feline diabetes expert.
      Where is the education gotten and what are your credentials?
      Are you licensed by a State Board?
      Can you, legally, open your own private practice?
      Are there any other feline expertise areas that people can pursue? Like renal, cardiac, etc.
      Very curious.

    • Ken,

      I am curious about your statement “I will tell you what you should buy and teach you how to test and aside from being more accurate it will probably be cheaper then the vet appointment”. Why are you charging for a service such as this? What are your credentials? There is a plethora of excellent support groups that are FREE and don’t charge a fee for the support offered to members. Naturally, any suggestions they make are just from their experiences and some members of these groups are highly informed and intelligent people who have a GREAT deal of information on the subject. In fact, I have learned so much about feline pancreatitis from both support groups and an excellent group on Facebook- that has been so helpful to both me and my veterinarian who is always open to learning also. Proclaiming to be an expert in anything should always be accompanied by the willingness to learn new things- of course in my humble opinion.

      • Be careful, Jo, lest you be accused of being provocative also.
        No questions allowed apparently.

  21. Ruth and Babz AND Walter- and of course Josef:)

    That is the best mews in the world. I have never heard of a cat going into remission, but this is fantastic- and you can be sure I will be telling my wonderful vet about your story. I have been following this story avidly- and with such great relief and joy- I wish Walter a permanent remission- of course that would be the best news of all. All I can say is that I am totally thrilled about this really amazing development. Thanks for sharing your story also.

    • Thank you Jo, you’ve been a constant support through this, bless you. We hadn’t heard of cats going into remission either until Sarah told us and that she had high hopes of Walter doing so, you can imagine how pleased she is!
      We have come to know her very well through this and like you with your vet, we feel happy to have someone we can trust.
      The owner of the practice even phoned us one day about some blood results when Sarah wasn’t there and everything he said, she had said too.
      We hope and pray Walter stays in remission, he’s doing so well now that it does our hearts good to see him enjoying his life to the full.

  22. You and Babz must be so relieved that Walter’s on the road back to recovery.

    If feline diabetes is similar to type 2 diabetes in humans, then a high protein, low fat diet will hopefully keep him in remission.

    • Yes he will stay on the high protein low fat diet and with his anxiety now calmed down we hope to have him for many more happy healthy years. Jozef brought another rabbit home today, sorry as I was for it as he killed it, it did my heart good to see him give it to Walter who had a wonderful game throwing it around the lawn.

  23. Of course I read this word for word and it is a real cat story. Quite a distressing story with a great ending. A roller coaster ride. It was instructive to me. I have learnt something. It seems the vet is not completely sure what caused it except for stress as a possibility. I suppose diabetes can occur out of the blue if a cat is predisposed to it.

    Also I am pleased to hear about a pheromone diffuser that has you approval and the approval of Walter. I’ll certainly log that down for when I might need it.

    Thanks for the article. Great article.

  24. Thank you for sharing the details of yours and Walter’s experience! So glad you have great supportive friends and a vet you trust.