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  1. The incident with the cat in the drive was before the laws{1986} were changed to include roaming cats.At that time it was legal for cats to roam as it was considered the cats nature,about 5 years after that the laws were changed.The neighbor was not so concerned about the cat as he did not like me because I was a witch. So,he would get at me through the cat. It was only that one cat that would go there in the shaded area of the concrete drive.Just like every Halloween he would call up saying I was sacrificing cats and AC would come out like a SWAT team. Year after year the same cats would be seen. Finally,the one woman wrote him off as a nuisance caller. As Dee said,in Marion County,Fl. Dog attacks out here are common,but usually unreported as the owners suddenly claim the dog is not their dog.Unless a child or elderly person is injured not much is reported.And when it is reported,even if you can locate the owner,most AC will just tell the owner to keep the dog under control,unless someone presses the issue. .articles;

    http://www.ocala.com/article/20100529/articles/5291013 /http://www.cunninghampilaw.com/blog/dog-bites/orange-county-man-kills-pit-bull-after-witnessing-attack-on-pet/

    http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2013.php/

    • Thanks Geri for clearing that up 😉 . It must be a tricky for you sometimes being a modern day witch. Some people will be interested and like it but others might be a bit scared of you and become defensively aggressive towards you. The word “witch” still carries ideas going back to medieval times.

  2. On my property I can shoot the dog.They are in my yard taking the cats.The cats were not off the property,they were in the backyard.I never said I would leave my property.The neighbor saw them carting away one of the cats,running down the road.Every incident I speak of was ON MY PROPERTY. The dogs do not belong there.The dogs come from down around the bend.If an animal is on your property,threatening you or your animals,you can shoot them. They have to be threatening.Yet,AC allows people to shoot cats if they wander through the yard.And no one was ever under attack by the cat walking through the yard.I checked on cats attacking people,stray or feral,no stats,none reported.Even when the cats were in the enclosure,dogs dug under the door area and slaughtered those cats.Just like when dogs attacked the horses. Was I supposed to stand there and let them tear up my horses? Or the children in the yard when they were young?This is not 2 or 3 incidents,this is 2 or 3 a year for 30 years. So,trap the dogs so they can live and do the same again,dog owner goes unpunished,meanwhile there are dead cats.The rights of dogs trump the lives of cats again.That is not reasonable to me.I just don’t have the stomach anymore to be out there trying to beat off dogs with a broomstick while the cat is torn to pieces.Shooting the dogs will not bring the cats back,but there will be peace knowing they will not be back to kill again. There are many dogs that come by here,but they do not attack. I usually give them a “cookie” and send them home. It is not about killing dogs because they exist,it is about protecting the cats from viscious dogs.

  3. Legally,you can shoot an animal that is a threat.Dogs attacking other animals in their own yards can be shot.And you can tell AC to stay off your property. Under the law,unless you invite them on the property,they cannot be there.I once held an AC person at gunpoint until the Sheriff got there to remove him and I was on the phone with his supervisor when the Sheriff showed up.He had pulled into my drive and was angrily shouting at me as he stomped up to where I was filling my wolf’s water bucket.Bear used to dig trenches about 4 feet deep and lay in them.He was kept outside while I worked and brought in once I came home.I was getting him some fresh water when AC came to complain because the neighbor had seen my cat sleeping in his driveway.AC was shouting in my face about the cat when Bear came up out of the trench and lunged for him. I caught Bear by the collar and the AC threatened to have Bear killed.Bear was protecting me from a hostile invader. I called the Sheriff and held AC there at gunpoint. The Sheriff gave the guy “what for” and showed him off the property.The only good thing I have to say about the AC guy is when his supervisor confronted him about his behavior and actions,he admitted to it. Last time I put out traps for dogs the cats went in them.I have caught dogs and contained them until AC picked them up,but they were not nasty dogs.Nobody would claim them and I could not keep them. If they have tags I call the phone number first and wait for an answer.Viscious dogs are different. It is not my job to catch them. It is my job to protect the colony.I have had 2 wolves and a dog over the last 30 years and none,from day one,ever bothered the cats.People encourage dogs to be that way. It is not about anger for me,it is about heartbreak and trauma.Do you know how traumatizing it is to be fending off dogs that are tearing your cats apart,or the effect it had on my children when it happened in front of them? And these sicko dog owners laugh about,brag about how many dead cats their dogs have brought home.Do people ever think about the mental effect it has on the cat owner?Those kinds of dog owners are very disturbed people. People like that only understand when it is their dog that is killed.Cats and their caretakers are treated like second class here.It has to change.When trying to reason with people does not work and the laws are not upheld,you eventually say,”Enough”. I said,”Enough” 15 years ago.

    • I get it, Geri. I really do.

      But, you cannot shoot a dog that is off your property, regardless if he has a cat in his mouth. The law will not be on your side. Your cat cannot be free-roaming off your property in this county. You will be cited and fined; and you will be jailed if you shoot a dog off your propeerty.

      I know that life seems a little different in the forest; but, the rules are the same for you and me.

      Keep the traps, equip them with fresh meat, (ie. ground beef, chicken parts, even tuna) dump any cat or friendly dog out, and wait.

      Also, let your idiot dog neighbors know that you are trapping “killer dogs”. Post signs if need be in front of your home, along your road, and at the end of your road.

    • Geri, you seem to know quite a lot about dogs and attacks by dogs on cats etc.. How common is it in the USA or at least where you live? I am sorry but I have forgotten in which part of the US you live. I ask because your neighbour complained about your cat sleeping in his driveway. To Europeans that is very strange. It would not cause a person to even think about it as a problem let alone something to complain about in Europe or at least the UK.

      You were very gutsy to pull your gun out on an AC 😉 It’s war!

      • Michael, Geri lives in my county, Marion County Florida, but in the National Forest area. You know the Marion County rules now. No free-roaming cats. Her cat cannot be sleeping on someone else’s property at all.
        It seems a little different in the Forest for some, but
        the laws are the same.

  4. The dog problem here is not about ferals,but people who allow their dogs to roam.Currently 2 red pitbulls are attacking animals in their own yards. I have lost 4 cats to these monsters.A neighbor messaged me,she saw the attack. I was at work. Now when I am home I keep watch.These dogs will be shown no mercy by me. I have had it with dog owners.These same people are the type who whine if a cat wanders across their yard,but think nothing about endangering other animals in their own yards,as well as people.Those dogs do not belong in my yard.I will shoot on sight. I do not like to kill any animal,but if it is in my yard attacking my cats,it is done.Dogs need to be rounded up and the owners fined.According to the law,if a dog attacks another animal or a person they are considered dangerous and are to be put down.But again,the AC favors dogs and dog owners.

    • Agreed. Dogs take first place and there are never any consequences.
      Animal Control is about the most useless thing that ever dropped on this planet when it comes to cat welfare.
      I caution you not to harm the dogs, Geri, no matter how mad you are. But, being the bitch that I am, I would call AC/kill shelter to request that they bring you 2-3 traps large enough for nuisance dogs and use them. Should they deny, get on the phone with a county commissioner and demand compliance.

  5. Dogs can be a nuisance barking constantly here but thankfully it’s rare to see one loose outside their own garden. But what I can’t understand is why people don’t take them for walks nowadays, there’s at least 3 in our street who never, or very rarely, get taken out.

      • Or on an X box (whatever that may be) as happened here with dogs yapping late at night out in the garden, he couldn’t hear them himself because of being on his.

    • Agreed. Dogs take first place and there are never any consequences.
      Animal Control is about the most useless thing that ever dropped on this planet when it comes to cat welfare.

      I caution you not to harm the dogs, Geri, no matter how mad you are. But, being the bitch that I am, I would call AC/kill shelter to request that they bring you 2-3 traps large enough for nuisance dogs and use them. Should they deny, get on the phone with a county commissioner and demand compliance.

  6. What really troubles me are loose dogs. If a cat is loose it might attack another cat. But .. a dog will attack another dog, a cat .. possibly a person.
    It angers me that people abandon pets and just toss them away like trash or leave them to fend for themselves or the horrid things they do to animals (It’s sickening). Man is the worse when it comes to how he treats others .. far worse than any other species (likely combined) in what he destroys or allows to happen through greed, negligence, apathy, lack of caring, indifference, compassion, etc. It may seem harsh .. but it doesn’t make it not true. If people could care about other things … maybe there would be less crime, hatred, and abuse that happens all too frequently. Makes me ashamed to be a part of the human race.

  7. I think in the UK, loose dogs running wild is not very common. Most of the serious and fatal dog attacks have taken place indoors, often in the owner’s home. I think the tightening of the law was done with that particular problem in mind.

    I know in other countries they have a real problem with dogs running wild. In poorer areas that may simply be because the animals are homeless, but I wonder if it’s also because some people have their dogs live outdoors in a kennel, making it easier for them to escape onto the streets?

  8. They’re definitely not African wild dogs, their tails generally have a bushy white tip. Unfortunately they’re either the pets of irresponsible owners or have been abandoned and left to fend for themselves.

    I must admit I haven’t seen any strays or dogs running loose in my Bedfordshire neighbourhood for years. Every day I regularly see people walking their dogs on leads in all kinds of weathers.

    Bad owners are thankfully a minority and hopefully the tightening of the UK legislation on the control of dogs, will push their numbers down even further.

    • Me neither. I have not seen a stray dog for ages. But they are common in other countries such as in Eastern Europe and in Asia. And possibly not uncommon in the USA. Perhaps this UK wild dog story is extremely rare.

  9. I would bet my bottom dollar that the top photo may be a Jack Russell.
    I, actually, love all animals, even dogs; but, Jack Russells are hunters and have killed many cats in my neighborhood.
    When I confronted my Jack f-cking Russell neighbor, she looked at his bloody snout and asked, “What did you do my honey?”
    I was so furious that all I can say is that the dog has found a new and loving home in the forest where Geri resides.

      • The message is don’t kill cats.

        I was so mad; but, I could never harm an animal and kept reminding myself that hunt and kill is their nature. They really are darling little S.O.B.’s but killers nonetheless. It wasn’t his fault at all. His people kept opening the door and letting him run loose.

        Worse things could have happened to him besides being rehomed. He could have become road kill here (just wondering if the statute of limitations has expired for dognapping. I believe so).

        He has found a very welcoming and loving home where he can run freely and chase all the squirrels he wants. But, HA!Ha! he can’t climb trees.

        I have only seen a couple of free roaming (possibly feral) dogs here in my entire lifetime. That pretty much never happens.

  10. I don’t think we have any feral dogs in England and now the latest law says dogs must always be kept under control by owners in public and in their own home and garden. Good news for postmen and delivery people and hopefully, cats won’t be attacked by loose dogs because the owner will be prosecuted.

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