If you do your research you’ll quickly find out that *ANY* TNR program and their advocates are making absolute fools out of everyone that they con with their nonsense. Not only causing untold damage of wildlife and further spread of deadly diseases but are also doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to curtail cats’ breeding rates.

Not even *ONE* TNR program has EVER trapped more than 0.4% of existing cats in any one area for over a decade now. They simply cannot trap them faster than they breed out of control, no matter what they do. And those cats that learn to evade traps go on to produce offspring that now also know how to evade any trapping method used. This is why, due to TNR-Advocates’ insistence that they have the “solution for everyone”, that our feral-cat population has now climbed to an ecologically-deadly 150 MILLION feral cats across the USA. Soon to turn into 1.5 BILLION cats within the year if you apply cats’ breeding rates to previous population numbers.

Find whatever way that you can to destroy all feral and stray cats on-sight. Avoid using traps if at all possible because trapping is what slowed everything down to where cat populations have now sky-rocketed out of control.

On advice of the local sheriff where I live I used a .22 equipped with a good illuminated-scope and a laser-sight for use when they are most active, dusk to dawn. I shot every last one of them on my property to try to restore all the native wildlife to proper balance. Mission accomplished! The cost was only 0.3 CENT per cat this way (5000 rounds on sale for only $15). And contrary to another famous TNR-Advocate’s bald-faced “vacuum effect” LIE … NO CATS REPLACED THEM. The NATIVE predators and their required NATIVE prey that WAS here and BELONGS here is what replaced these lousy invasive-species cats that destroyed the native food-chain.

May you have as much success as I did, and so inexpensively too.

p.s. Avoid the use of poisons if at all possible that, if released into the food-chain, might harm the very wildlife that you are trying to save from destruction by cats. And please bury or incinerate the carcasses so all the highly toxic diseases that cats now carry won’t go on to harm or infect more wildlife or humans.

To dispel some other lies of cat-advocates … cats are NOT good rodent control. Due to cats spreading their Toxoplasma gondii parasites to rodents, any rodents infected with T. gondii are actually ATTRACTED to cat-urine. CATS ATTRACT RODENTS. If you want to attract rodents to your home, keep cats.

The more you research, the more you find out how much of what cat-advocates spew is just easily revealed lies.

If there’s one thing I learned in all of this, if a cat-lover is talking then they are lying.

T. gondii also changes human behavior. It resides as permanent cysts in human minds where it is not only changing how humans behave and think during their whole lives but can even kill you at ANY TIME during your life if your immune-system becomes compromised. It can even lead to schizophrenia, and is now being linked to many forms of brain-cancers in humans.

Their cats are now even spreading the plague:
http://www.pagosasun.com/archives/2011/07July/072811/webplague.html

So even their oft-spewed nonsense that cats could have prevented the plague in Europe is a lie. Cats would have actually made it WORSE.

Educate yourself and you’ll quickly find that cat-lovers are just manipulative lies on top of deceptive lies on even more deceitful misinformation lies.

By the way, look up the term these TNR advocates just LOVE to use on how they reduce their feral-cat numbers, their feel-good term of “Death by Attrition”. This means that the cat will die from disease, cat-attacks, animal-attacks, exposure to the elements, being road-kill, starvation, and any other means that drastically shortens the life of those cats. ALL their cats suffering for how many months or years it takes to die that way. In many parts of this country and many areas of the world this clearly falls under the guidelines for cruelty to animals, animal-abuse, and animal-abandonment laws.

If you want to raise revenue for your towns and cities in order to deal with this invasive-species ecological-disaster properly, start charging all these TNR advocates with severe fines and imprisonment for CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. Not only are they cruelly torturing cats, but also all the wildlife that they inflict their cats upon.

They’re not doing this out of any goodness of their hearts. THEY DON’T HAVE HEARTS. Proved, 100%.

We all know the past 2 posts belong to Woodman; you’re not fooling anyone. No one believes you’ve got land or anything else, since you continue to ignore requests of your state, in order to look up the laws, so please do us all a favor and go away…

Moral of the Story:

I wasted 15 YEARS of my life arguing with demented cat-lovers. During which THEIR CATS DESTROYED ALL WILDLIFE ON MY LAND.

It wasn’t until I STOPPED arguing and did what needed to be done, SHOOT ALL CATS, that my land, all the wildlife, and my life itself started to return to normal. I no longer have to go out twice a day on cat-patrol to shoot more cats nor waste more time and energy burying them to protect wildlife from the diseases they carry.

I hope the rest of you learn from this. You can argue with the Toxoplasmosis parasites in the cat-lovers’ brains until you are blue in the face and your whole planet is destroyed by their cats, but it’ll never get rid of the cats that have destroyed your life and all wildlife.

JUST DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE — DESTROY THEM.

Only later, AFTER your land and life are 100% free of cats, can you have fun educating the ineducable. Use the time you got back from their cats taking over your life to share the best ways to destroy all cats. (Without harming any other wildlife nor humans.) Then if you want, make YOUR life THEIR problem. Just as they made THEIR cats YOUR problem for years. It’s only fair! Because that’s what it’s really all about, it’s not about cats at all. THEY ONLY WANT TO CONTROL YOUR LIFE WITH THEIR CATS. You put a stop to that immediately BY DESTROYING THEIR CATS. And there’s not ONE THING they can do about it if you do it right. They’ll no longer have any part of your life.

Here’s another kicker that trap-advocates fail to realize, in their infinite ignorance of how animal-behavior and evolution works.

Those cats that have learned to avoid and evade all trapping methods are the next generation to survive. Ever hear the old adage, “If you build a better mousetrap nature will just build a better mouse.”?

So now, thanks to the supreme stupidity and ignorance of trap-advocates, we have a race of freely roaming cats in all countrysides of every continent which are passing on their “how to survive” behavior to all their offspring, both genetically and behaviorally. Now the next phase of millions of feral-cats won’t even be able to be trapped. This is just how amazingly stupid trap-advocates are. You thought 150,000,000 feral cats was bad? In colloquial terms, “You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet!”

There’s a reason the phrase “hunted to extinction” is so well-known in all cultures across all lands. It is the ONLY method that is faster than a species can adapt to.

Stick that in your TNR-pipe of deceptive and deceitful ignorance and smoke it. You might as well, because you all have obviously been smoking something.

Once again, the point has been proven of your ignorance of the law since you refuse to devulge which state you are in so I can look up the animal laws to refute your allegations.

My background includes the law, so it is very easy for me to do the research; however, your temperment dictates otherwise. By calling me derogatory names, you are only making yourself look foolish and not helping your cause.

Thank you for visiting PoC and sharing your opinion.

Where I live it is not only legal, it is MANDATORY to shoot any dog that is running free and chasing deer or has been suspected of chasing deer, whether they are neutered or not, someone’s pet or not. THEY DIE. That’s a law in most ALL states. You freakishly stupid and criminally irresponsible moron. You should be hanged until dead for the crime of Biological-Warfare. Go ahead, look up the definition of that crime. EVERYTHING you do with cats fits it PERFECTLY.

Woodsman, where do you live? I’m just curious so I can look up the laws of your area/state.

Personally, I will no longer continue this discussion with you as you’ve got your mind made up, have skewed the facts and, quite frankly, don’t appear to be of sound mind.

Thanks for visiting Poc.

P.S. By your logic, you should shoot your dogs too since they kill wildlife as well. Bet yours isn’t neutered either.

Make new cat-ownership AND care-taking of feral-cats a felony, with fines and prison for anyone failing to comply until this problem they created is brought under control by any and all means possible. Shoot-on-sight is, without a doubt, the fastest, most economical (0.3 cent to 3 cents per cat depending on ammo prices), and most effective method available. It’s how I was able to rid my own land of this invasive-species nightmare (legal where I live). This is also the only method that doesn’t endanger nor harass any other animals, like what frequently happens with non-discriminatory random-chance traps. If it’s not legal where you live then use the “SSS Cat Management Program” — SSS = Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Though avoid use of poisons if at all possible, that once entered into the food-chain, will go on to destroy more of the very wildlife that you are hoping to save from destruction by cats. Whatever you do though, please bury or incinerate the carcasses so all the deadly diseases that cats now carry won’t go on to further infect the native wildlife, nor any other humans that might come in contact with them. Following is some good documentation on the most humane ways to confront a feral-cat problem where you live, including the best firearms, air-rifles, and ammo required. Though avoid using their suggested slow and inefficient trapping methods that got us into the ecological-disaster that we have now. http://deenawinter.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ec1781.pdf

On advice of the sheriff, I alone was able to completely rid my land of all these INVASIVE-SPECIES feral-cats by shooting. Cats had annihilated the native food-chain for ALL native wildlife, destroying not only all the prey that their cats disemboweled and cruelly tortured for play-toys, but all the predators that depended on that prey, starving all native predators to death as well. (Now there’s REAL animal cruelty for you, caused by cat-lovers. They should all be in prisons for life.) Shooting cats is perfectly legal where I live, and is even a more humane method when done right than terrorizing trapping and animal-shelter methods. One moment they are happily stalking defenseless animals to cruelly torture again, the next they are dead and don’t even know what happened. Making your land 100% cat-free is something that cat advocates haven’t been able to solve nation-wide for 30-40 years. On my land only 1 person in only 2 seasons was able to accomplish what they couldn’t attain in decades. Why is that? It’s time for you all to grow a spine and get enough strength-of-heart to do what needs to be done. If it’s not legal where you live then use the “SSS Cat Management Program”, for Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-Up. That’s legal everywhere in the world. It may be the only thing that saves us from this ecological disaster caused by spineless and ignorant lawmakers, as well as all the heartless and disrespectful cat-advocates that they defend. Don’t waste your time arguing with ignorant cat-lovers either, as I stupidly tried to do for 15 years. Just do what needs to be done FIRST. Only later, after you’ve made your land 100% cat-free should you take your time to try to educate the ineducable, as I am attempting to do now.

Trapping and/or sterilizing and testing as a solution is a failed concept from Day-One.

There are now about 150,000,000 feral-cats just in the USA, PLUS 86,000,000 pet-cats (60,000,000 of which are still allowed to kill all wildlife), this means the population is already oversaturated for a long time. Nobody wants more than 86,000,000 cats for pets. There’s only 311,000,000 people in the USA. 2+ cats exist for every 3 people, from infant to senior. Thanks to those who outlawed destroying them in a more efficient, often more-humane, and more cost-effective manner by shooting them. While they also promoted their slow, random-chance, inefficient, and failed trapping programs. TNR people (criminally irresponsible cat-hoarders in reality) claim trap and kill is also a failure, and they’d be right. The problem has always been the trapping, slowing things down far below cats’ breeding-rates.

Keep in mind their exponential growth-rate. An average litter of 5 cats every 5-6 months (some say 3X’s a year), breeding as early as 6-months of age. 2 can become 42 (up to 252) cats in only 1 year. No amount of trapping them (if you could even get them all to enter traps), nor valuable resources (transport and vet costs, etc.), man-hours, nor money will ever catch-up to their growth rate. You have an ecological, human-health, animal-welfare, and financial disaster on your hands, ALL thanks to cat-lovers and TNR-advocates. The faster that cats are destroyed the better. Even using guns and having all stray and feral cats shot-on-sight we still might not be able to catch-up to their exponential growth. Not even until every last land animal (including humans) is gone from this earth, due to cats destroying the whole food-chain, with nothing but cannibalistic cats left walking the land. No exaggeration. Do the math. Ask any TNR group how many cats they’ve trapped. They haven’t even begun to scratch the surface of the problem THEY CAUSED and are only exacerbating with their blatant lies and deceptions. Using the birth-rate, guess how many feral-cats alone will be born just this year? Even when underestimating by 1/2 to be safe — 1 BILLION 575 MILLION CATS. Got enough traps? Got enough centuries to trap them all while they’re still breeding at exponential rates and decimating all wildlife? Trap-advocates cost you to lose the feral-cat-explosion race long ago.

Their TNR (trap, neuter, release) programs are a dismal failure. A smokescreen and time and money waster. Don’t let anyone try to convince you otherwise. Do a search online for the truth about all TNR failures. Cats are an invasive species. Bred by man for man’s purposes through selective-breeding, a form of genetic engineering. They are NOT an indigenous species anywhere on the planet today and have NO PLACE in nature. A cat killing ANY wildlife is no more natural than if someone raised piranha for pets and dumped a tank of them in your bath with you in it, or releasing them in your favorite swimming areas, or in all your neighbors’ backyard pools. In fact, that would be even MORE natural than your cats destroying wildlife. At least the piranha weren’t genetically engineered through selective breeding like all cats are today. IF EVEN *ONE* NATIVE ANIMAL IS DESTROYED BY EVEN ONE INVASIVE-SPECIES ANIMAL, IT IS ONE NATIVE ANIMAL TOO MANY.

These invasive-species cats that are released outdoors will still be annihilating the food-chain for all native wildlife. If you feed a TNR cat-colony they kill even more wildlife. A well-fed cat kills more animals than a starving one. They don’t stop killing other animals just because they’re no longer hungry. The healthier they are the more they kill. It’s what they do, it’s what they are. Lousy little killing machines, nothing more.

It’s not just the loss of bird populations either. Feral cats and farmers that let theirs roam free had annihilated the natural food-chain in my woods. The resident foxes, owls, and other predator animals no longer had a food source. The feral cats maimed and disemboweled all the smaller animals for use as live play-toys, all dying a slow agonizing death, senselessly destroying all animals that other native wildlife depended on as a food source. The native species all starved to death. That’s what cats do to ALL native animals.

There has also been research done to prove that cats are now spreading their potentially deadly and mind-altering Toxoplasma gondii parasite-disease to wildlife even in remote areas.

http://www.labspaces.net/view_news_comments.php?newsID=110760

OK Woodsman, just so you think I’m trying to avoid this discussion, I searched google for the hookworm story and found it.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/11/24/Cats-spreading-hookworm-in-Miami-Beach/UPI-56541290617601/

1st of all, you didn’t mention that it happened last year. 2nd, it is not the feral cats fault – it is PEOPLE’S fault that there are ferals as I mentioned previously.

3rd, if Miami had a viable TNR Program, you wouldn’t have anything to complain about. One would think with Miami being a tourist destination, they would address this issue and have a viable program. Any cat colony that is properly maintained is less likely to experience hookworm. Quoting from the Miami commissioner:

“Miami Beach Commissioner Jerry Libbin, who is also president of the Chamber of Commerce, also says hookworm, while unpleasant, is easily treated. He points out 1.3 billion people are infected every year around the world.” Imagine, 1.3 BILLION people…they don’t all live in Miami.

Our shelter had a hookworm infection 2ce since I’ve been there. Each time, the shelter is closed down, animals are quarantined, the shelter is sanitized and every animal is treated rather than killed. That is responsbility at its highest.

So, tell me, what contributions have you made lately for the betterment of strays and ferals?

To continue on this subject:

Ferals do not come anywhere near people; therefore, the insinuation of being bitten is moot (aside from the fact that they’re not rabid). You seem to be assuming facts not in evidence. Ignorance is a scary thing. Our purpose is to educate. We hold seminars periodically about these very subjects along with dog training classes, guest speaking at schools, etc.

I am not aware of what happened in Miami. Please forward the link to the story so I may be able to respond intelligently to that situation.

Rather than being so defensive & angry, I am more than happy to continue this discussion with you & anyone else in a rational manner. Thank you for bringing this matter to the forefront. Only by open dialogue can we continue in a responsible & respectful way for both humans and animals.

Thank you, Woodsman, for bringing up some thought-provoking questions. I can only speak for our TNR program.

The purpose of TNR is NOT to be cat hoarders; quite the opposite. The purpose is to control the cat population which was created by thoughtless humans who refuse to spay/neuter their animals & release them to roam freely. Once the cats are spay/neutered, they no longer procreate. As cats die off, the population decreases. We used to have several strays/ferals in my neighborhood & we trapped/spayed/neutered them. Only 3 are left; new cats have not shown up.

Our TNR program captures stray/feral cats; get a full medical workup, are innoculated, including rabies, spayed/neutered & ears are tipped so anyone can tell that they have been seen. If these cats are found to be diseased, they are either treated prior to release, or in the sad case of being contagious or without any quality of life, they will be humanely put down.

If we find feral kittens, we try to trap them with momma. They go into a foster home until the kittens are weaned, at which time they will be put up for adoption (after innoculation/spayed/neutered). If momma cat is adoptable, we will also put her up for adoption. If she remains wild, we will return her to the colony after she is innoculated & spayed.

We have organized volunteers who tend to these colonies, including but not limited to, feeding & cleaning up after them; we also keep fastidious records regarding innoculations including rabies. When the appointed time comes, these cats are re-captured & innoculated again.

BTW – yes, we do have insurance coverage up the “wazoo” for the work we do, including the TNR program. We also have our local authorities who assist us, both health department & police. Being a 100% no-kill/all volunteer shelter, we’ve been fortunate to be supported by our community. We rely solely on contributions & have many fundraising activities throughout the year. No one gets paid – we do it for the love of the animals, not for selfish reasons as your post suggests.

Any concerned citizen is always welcomed to come to us if they are having an issue with any colonies we maintain. That is why it is so successful. As for destroying wildlife, that also is a misnomer. Any colony that is properly maintained eliminates the need for cats destroying wildlife since they don’t need to hunt for food. Sure, cats have the prey instinct, but are much less likely to kill anything with a full belly.

Here’s a few questions that I (and EVERYONE) need to ask all TNR advocates and feral-cat caretakers … though they never answer these questions, for ANYONE. (Just more proof of how disrespectful, deceitful, and irresponsible they are.) Don’t be shy, TNR people, any of you are free to answer any of these questions for once in your lives …

Once you have claimed ownership of these cats through your actions, do you carry enough liability-insurance for all the damages YOUR CATS will do (not if) when you release them? Or for all the health-care costs YOUR CATS will cause to all humans with all the diseases YOUR CATS now carry? Like Toxoplasma gondii, which becomes a lifelong illness once YOUR CATS infect a human with it. Or, should one of YOUR CATS contract rabies during its lifetime because you were unable to trap it again to vaccinate it. How many $MILLIONS in liability-insurance do you carry if one of YOUR RABID CATS should bite a human? How about anyone who has lost business due to YOUR CATS running off customers because of the diseases they spread everywhere? Like what happened in Miami where YOUR CATS spread hookworm on all the beaches where YOUR CATS defecated. Can you repay everyone for their $MILLIONS, if not $BILLIONS, in losses of health, life, business, and property? Do you even know what the charge is if YOUR CATS are found destroying endangered plant or animal species? How much money for damages will you pay to the person whose wildlife you’ve completely decimated on their woodland property? Do you have enough money to pay for any daily or weekly land-use fees that people will be charging you for you using THEIR LAND for YOUR CATS? Usually all done without anyone’s permission I might add. Are you even aware that what you are doing falls CLEARLY under the definition of “Biological Warfare”? No lie. Do you want to be tried in court and charged with this crime against all of humanity and all of nature?

Are you doing all of this completely irresponsibly without regard to the health and welfare of any other animal nor human life? If so, have you considered you could be thrown in prison for a long long time for all of this extremely criminal and irresponsible behavior of yours?

You might want to start thinking about these things. Your actions DO have consequences, and those are consequences that you may not enjoy … for the rest of your miserable, unthinking, uncaring, inconsiderate, and wholly disrespectful cat-loving lives.

I hope that the communities that have adopted this ordinance are working with the local humane societies, shelters and ACOs. There is an abundance of information out there; it just takes a little legwork and effort to be successful.

Our shelter had the help of the ACO to set up our TNR program. We’ve got dedicated volunteers who maintain the colonies and trap the newest ferals for the same things mentioned in your article. We (try to) trap Momma feral along with her kittens until they are weaned. The feral family goes into foster and when old enough, the kittens are adopted out and depending on Momma’s temperment, she is either adopted out or brought back to the colony after being spayed, innoculated, etc.

May Columbia, Missouri find much success in their new law. It is well worth the effort and it is a win-win situation all around.